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Postby Tonyblack » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:15 pm

I think Vimes was laughing at the stupidity of the military types and their inability to do something without a huge palaver. And in that way it's quite Vimes-like in that he's probably sneering at them rather than giggling. :D

And I loved Monstrous Regiment as well.
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Postby Dotsie » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:17 am

Tonyblack wrote:it's quite Vimes-like in that he's probably sneering at them rather than giggling. :D


I agree - but he never does it publicly - he's more of a private sneerer!
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Postby Kade » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:14 am

I had a bit of a time getting into Monstrous Regiment but I did enjoy the book immensely overall, now that you point it out Dotsie, Vimes did come across somewhat out of character and maybe that was what threw me! I take it hard when a character behaves differently than I have come to know and love them, and because I read all the other Witches books and then only read Equal Rites I had the most awful time dealing with how totally different Granny started out!

I have only read Making Money once so far, I just can’t read the same book twice in a row I prefer to have a gap between, but I did enjoy Cosmo Lavishes wild, crazy maniac behavior – my hand ached for him at several points!
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Postby Tonyblack » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:42 am

One thing you have to remember with Monstrous Regiment is that we actually see Vimes through someone else's eyes. Polly has only heard of Vimes up until in a negative way. Vimes the Butcher, if I remember correctly. When she sees him he stands out from everyone else because he looks different. What might really be an amused grin might look to Polly like something else. :)
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Postby Kade » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:17 am

Very true Tonyblack, all this enlightenment settles it I am going to start on Monstrous Regiment again today now that I have a fresh perspective on it I am keen to give it another read!

I absolutely love the fact that a forum titled Making Money made me want to read Monstrous Regiment again :lol:
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Postby Tonyblack » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:27 am

What us digress from a topic? :shock: Never! :lol:

Actually, I found that a subsequent reading of MR was well worth it. The first time you read it there's the whole 'is she or isn't she?' bit which is somewhat distracting to what is otherwise a great story.

And the whole thing about women fighting dressed as men is really not all that far fetched. I have a list somewhere of a whole bunch of them that did it for various reasons in our own history.

If you get the chance, Google 'magdalene laundries' and you'll see the relevance of the workhouse for wayward girls mentioned in MR. The fact that one of the girls is named 'Magda' really shows, I think, that this was on Terry's mind when he wrote the book. :wink:
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Postby Dotsie » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:40 am

Tonyblack wrote:One thing you have to remember with Monstrous Regiment is that we actually see Vimes through someone else's eyes. Polly has only heard of Vimes up until in a negative way. Vimes the Butcher, if I remember correctly. When she sees him he stands out from everyone else because he looks different. What might really be an amused grin might look to Polly like something else. :)


But the first time she sees this giggling moron she doesn't know who he is :D

I agree about Magda by the way. It was nice to see the home for wayward girls get its comeuppance as well.
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where's the gold??

Postby NetBuggy » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:18 pm

Hi All! I just finished reading Making Money and I find myself having a “Detritus” moment. Is it just me or is there something funky going on with the gold? I mean, in chap. 2 Moist sees it in the vault. Then it is stolen and we later find out that it was sold years before... What?!?! :?
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Postby Tonyblack » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:24 pm

Hi there NetBuggy and welcome. :D

If I remember correctly, what Moist sees are lumps of lead painted gold. No one had inspected them closely and it appeared that the finacial system worked (sort of) whether the gold was really there or not.
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Postby chris.ph » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:18 pm

welcome netbuggy :lol:
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Postby NetBuggy » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:46 pm

Tonyblack wrote:If I remember correctly, what Moist sees are lumps of lead painted gold. No one had inspected them closely and it appeared that the finacial system worked (sort of) whether the gold was really there or not.


I completely forgot about that!!! :oops: The ingots were made of lead and painted gold!!! That was the AM$5 he was talking about.

Thanks for the reminder. :wink:
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Postby Tonyblack » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:56 pm

:wink: No worries - I read it recently. It was quite apt considering the current economic disaster.
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Postby Lady Vetinari » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:47 pm

A friend of mine read Monstrous Regiment to me but I didn't like it, I found it rather dry, boring and not the best one.

I personally love Making Money, I thought it is very vital to the times we live in at the moment, can you imagine Vet - sorry, Gordon Brown, has a glooper in the bank of England?

I also loved the lecherous dead Wizard and the Necromancers *only doing it for the cool black robes, and nice jewellery, and the girls!* made me laugh, considering my favourite characters always were black!

I also loved the first female Golem. And the fact that she was trying to flirt with Moist ... poor chap!

I thought it was better that some. Personally I couldn't get on with Theif of Time, I had to put it down after two hundred pages. I am going to try again though because everyone else seems to love it.

I also LOVED The Truth, and I would say it is my third favourite and would love a signed copy of that one as it is about journalism ... it kind of parodied His Girl Friday, a brilliant Cary Grant film also about journalism.

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Postby Tonyblack » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:57 pm

Monstous Regiment needs to be read more than once in my opinion. I didn't much care for it when I first read it and that has been the experience of a lot of people I know. Subsequent readings reveal it to be a wonderfully crafted book about the idiocy of war where a country will bankrupt itself to prove a point that is pointless in the first place.

It goes to show howe diffeerent readers of Pratchett are. I didn't like Making Money on the first read and I liked it even less on subsequent readings. That's pretty much a first for me with Terry's writing. I've often not liked a book much on the first reading but have grown to love them later - including my all time favourite, Small Gods. But Making Money just didn't do it for me at all. :?
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Postby Lady Vetinari » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:43 pm

Ah well, we'd all be boring if we were all the same, but I just found Monstrous Regiment so boring I could sleep through it. I didn't find any of the characters likable... whereas with Making Money I felt I was reading a modern classic very close to Charles Dickens. I loved the characterization and I especially loved the chairman, I want to take that cute ickle doggy for walkies!!!!

I also loved the ward full of the fake Vetinaries!
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