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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:33 pm

:oops: Andie - I didn't mean to imply that I hate you at all (if that is what you meant) and I don't think anyone on here does. What I meant was that books are precious things and should never be destroyed or censored and condemned just because some people think they're wrong for some reason, or are sending out the 'wrong' message and spreading new ideas that could be good for people to know about.

The Bible, as you're saying, is a good case in point and people should be free to take what they want from it, if it gives them comfort and shores up their own beliefs and helps them make sense of the world and how to live in it. I don't personally agree with or believe everything the Bible tells us, but there's a lot of history and cultural richness in there that's interesting and useful too, and the message of the Gospels is something that has sustained people for 2 thousand years and taught them to love and appreciate others. It's caused a lot of conflict too, but the core message is one I think very few sensible people (and despite appearances there are a lot of them on this forum) would say the Bible is a bad book, or that any Christian is bad person just because they believe in Jesus and his teachings.

I don't think you've been rude or offensive at all in this thread or any other come to that - you've brought up a lot of interesting points which is something we enjoy debating on this site. I'm sorry if you thought I was reacting badly to your remark about having to be careful what you wrote about the classics when you were at school. What I was trying to say was it's sad you had to be careful what you said in case you upset the people in charge - they were the ones at fault, not you at all. :)
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Postby Tonyblack » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:26 am

AndieKry wrote:To be honest, Classics is nothing to do with them.
if you look at the books, The Bible is a good example of such a classics.
Jews (own the first 5 books) - say they understand it their way (Rav said they were chosen);
Christians - it is even worse - still didn't come to an agreement if there is a place for women priests (not mentioning other disagreements between different groups that are ready to kill to prove that they are right - fun, don't their God knows better), etc.
Not going any further - already seeing some people hate me.
P.S.: my apologies to all - never wanted to be rude or offensive. but some people are offensive to me when I say that I am a follower of my Gods.


Huh? :shock:

I know I've not been around the last few days, but 'people hating you'??? I seem to have totally missed that. Is it possible that you have misunderstood what people here are saying?

I know that some boards can be very hard on newbies - but this one isn't and I'm proud of the fact that we do our best here to make everyone welcome.

People are going to have differences of opinion and they may even question your views - but that doesn't mean they hate you. It means that they want to try and understand your views better.

I hope you'll not give up on us - we really are a nice group of Pratchett fans here. :)
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Postby raisindot » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:20 pm

Tonyblack wrote:...People are going to have differences of opinion and they may even question your views - but that doesn't mean they hate you. It means that they want to try and understand your views better.

I hope you'll not give up on us - we really are a nice group of Pratchett fans here. :)


This is totally true--up until the first time you get poohed upon.

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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:43 pm

That's just a rite of passage - being poohed on I mean :lol:
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Postby poohcarrot » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:21 pm

Andie

I'm pretty sure that nobody hates you. :D
Most people usually save their hate for me. :(

Don't worry about any comments from Jan or J-I-B, they both think they know what they're talking about, but between you and me, they ain't got a clue most of the time. :lol:
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:42 pm

:roll: See! Rite of passage :lol:
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Postby raisindot » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:33 pm

Jan Van Quirm wrote::roll: See! Rite of passage :lol:


No, I don't think so. It wasn't a true "pooh upon." No blood drawn, you see :D

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Postby poohcarrot » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:36 pm

That's because I'm a reformed character these days. 8)
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Postby Willem » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:41 pm

It's MALformed, not REformed!
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:47 pm

You leave pooh alone Willem & Jeff - he can't help being a cuddlebunny :lol:
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Postby raisindot » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:08 pm

poohcarrot wrote:That's because I'm a reformed character these days. 8)


Ahhh, well that explains why I saw Ronnie Soak's milk truck crossing the sky today....

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Postby poohcarrot » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:02 pm

raisindot wrote:
poohcarrot wrote:That's because I'm a reformed character these days. 8)


Ahhh, well that explains why I saw Ronnie Soak's milk truck crossing the sky today....

:lol:

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No, you saw Ronnie Soak's milk truck because you've got your head so far in the clouds, which would explain why you have trouble with the simplest tasks such as using the correct hyphons in your own initials. :lol:
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Postby raisindot » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:51 pm

poohcarrot wrote:No, you saw Ronnie Soak's milk truck because you've got your head so far in the clouds, which would explain why you have trouble with the simplest tasks such as using the correct hyphons in your own initials. :lol:


Ah, there we are. Back to normal. Knew ths whole "reformed" charade wouldn't last. :D

And, while we're playing English Police here, I'm pretty sure on both sides of the Pond that the word 'hyphen' is spelled with an 'e' after the second 'h.' Unless this is one of those Japanese-English things.

:roll: :roll: :D

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Postby poohcarrot » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:37 am

I've got to play fair and leave you with something to get back at me with, haven't I? :lol:
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Postby raisindot » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:19 pm

poohcarrot wrote:I've got to play fair and leave you with something to get back at me with, haven't I? :lol:


So, so, predictable you are, Pooh. So much so I predicted it. Note my message hidden away near the very bottom of

http://www.terrypratchett.co.uk/forum/v ... 6&start=60

...predicting you'd say that. Posted an hour before you posted this above. You're losing your edge, sir!

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And, yes, I know you saw that message.

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