Pride And Prejudice

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Pride And Prejudice

Postby shelke » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:52 pm

Pride and Prejudice is a novel by Jane Austen. First published in 1813, as her second novel, she started it in 1796 as her first persevering effort for publication. She finished the original manuscript by 1797 in Steventon, Hampshire, where she lived with her parents and siblings in the town rectory. Austen originally called the story First Impressions, but it was never published under that title; instead, she made extensive revisions to the manuscript, then retitled and eventually published it as Pride and Prejudice. In renaming the novel, Austen may have had in mind the final chapter of Fanny Burney's Cecilia, itself called "Pride and Prejudice" and where the phrase appears three times in block capitals. (She may also have been concerned that the original title might be confused with other works.)

The story follows the main character Elizabeth Bennet as she deals with issues of manners, upbringing, moral rightness, education and marriage in her aristocratic society of early 19th century England. Elizabeth is the second eldest of five daughters of a country gentleman landed in the fictional town of Meryton in Hertfordshire, not far from London.

Though the story's setting is uniquely turn of the 19th century, it retains a fascination for modern readers, continuing near the top of lists of 'most loved books' such as the Big Read. It still receives considerable attention from literary critics. This modern interest has resulted in a number of dramatic adaptations and an abundance of novels and stories imitating Austen's memorable characters or themes.

To date, the book has sold some 20 million copies worldwide
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Postby Tonyblack » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:12 pm

I've never read this one - it's one that I plan to get around to one of these days - but when that will be, I have no idea. :D
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:15 am

If Jane Austen was alive today she'd be Nora Ephron only much, much better - she'd have Hollywood on it's knees begging her to write screenplays or direct! The woman was an utter genius at people watching and even though she never married her characterisations were nothing short of brilliant. She's right up there with Tolkien and Terry as an author for me. :D

If they'd only had typewriters invented back then she'd have written much more than the 6 fully finished novels to her credits and although they're possibly a little 'samey' on the surface, the messages they give out are still relevant today. I love her to bits for showing that 19th C women were very much not shrinking violets (well maybe not Fanny Price) and could think for themselves :lol:
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Postby michelanCello » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:42 am

Tonyblack wrote:I've never read this one - it's one that I plan to get around to one of these days - but when that will be, I have no idea. :D

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Pride and Prejudice is one of my favorites... I know it almost by heart... :oops: The movie (with Keira Knightly, but the series with Colin Firth is also very good) is one of my favorite films, one I always play on the background when I've nothing to do... :wink:
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Postby Doughnut Jimmy » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:53 am

I've read Pride and Prejudice and various other Austens but they don't grab me in the way other books do and I've no desire to reread them
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Postby mspanners » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:06 pm

Never read the book but I did see the Red Dwarf episode where I think Lister,Rimmer and the Cat were trying to score with the Girls and Kryten turned up with a Tank to demand they return to the Ship for Dinner!!
I assume the episode is closely based on the Book! :shock:

Or Not!!!!! :lol:
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:40 pm

:lol: Very loosely
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Postby BatrickPatrick » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:34 am

I've read most of Pride & Predjudice & Zombies >.>

mspanners wrote:Never read the book but I did see the Red Dwarf episode where I think Lister,Rimmer and the Cat were trying to score with the Girls and Kryten turned up with a Tank to demand they return to the Ship for Dinner!!
I assume the episode is closely based on the Book! :shock:

Or Not!!!!! :lol:


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Postby Dotsie » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:01 pm

I couldn't put this book down, I've read it loads. Lizzie Bennet is one of my favourite characters, I can completely identify with her shooting her mouth off then regretting it :oops: As for JA's other characters, I admit that Fanny Price seems annoying at first but the irony is that she's a healthy intelligent woman who's at the mercy of her relatives charity. It annoys me that she never speaks up, although she's not as pathetic as she appears. Emma drove me mad but by the end I quite warmed to her, and Anne Elliot was just a lovely delicate flower who needed to flirt a bit more, so she could have avoided a very long and complicated romance!
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Postby DaveC » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:59 pm

One of the few books that I was made to read at school that I really liked, (the other being To Kill A Mockingbird).

The BBC adap is good but the 2005 film was awesome! Great cast, subtle score,really funny.
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:18 pm

Dotsie wrote: As for JA's other characters, I admit that Fanny Price seems annoying at first but the irony is that she's a healthy intelligent woman who's at the mercy of her relatives charity. It annoys me that she never speaks up, although she's not as pathetic as she appears. Emma drove me mad but by the end I quite warmed to her, and Anne Elliot was just a lovely delicate flower who needed to flirt a bit more, so she could have avoided a very long and complicated romance!

Poor Fanny - she gets a bad press and she does come across as this passive little person who won't defend herself. Different times and as you say she was a victim of her social position. I think the bit in Portsmouth is where I finally stop getting exasperated with her because of how she befriends Susan and together they start sorting out their parents dysfunctional household and then the whole family.

Mansfield Park's a very even-handed book in that respect 'cos all 3 sisters fail their families in some respect, especially Lady Bertram and, like Jane observed, the vile cow aka Mrs Norris would have made a more 'respectable' mother of umpty umph kiddies with her mania for saving the pennies, although I doubt she'd have had that many kids with the tongue on her, as Mr Price would probably have found a way to stay on the ships instead of coming home! :P

I haven't seen the 2005 P&P movie, but the Jennifer Ehle/Colin Firth adaptation was pretty good, although she was perhaps a little too - erm 'statuesque' to be this nimble little temptress :P The cast was excellent though and I loved Alison Steadman as Mummy Bennett.
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Postby DaveC » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:33 pm

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Dotsie wrote: As for JA's other characters, I admit that Fanny Price seems annoying at first but the irony is that she's a healthy intelligent woman who's at the mercy of her relatives charity. It annoys me that she never speaks up, although she's not as pathetic as she appears. Emma drove me mad but by the end I quite warmed to her, and Anne Elliot was just a lovely delicate flower who needed to flirt a bit more, so she could have avoided a very long and complicated romance!

Poor Fanny - she gets a bad press and she does come across as this passive little person who won't defend herself. Different times and as you say she was a victim of her social position. I think the bit in Portsmouth is where I finally stop getting exasperated with her because of how she befriends Susan and together they start sorting out their parents dysfunctional household and then the whole.

Mansfield Park's a very even-handed book in that respect 'cos all 3 sisters fail their families in some respect, especially Lady Bertram and, like Jane observed, the vile cow aka Mrs Norris would have made a more 'respectable' mother of umpty umph kiddies with her mania for saving the pennies, although I doubt she'd have had that many kids with the tongue on her, as Mr Price would probably have found a way to stay on the ships instead of coming home! :P

I haven't seen the 2005 P&P movie, but the Jennifer Ehle/Colin Firth adaptation was pretty good, although she was perhaps a little too - erm 'statuesque' to be this nimble little temptress :P The cast was excellent though and I loved Alison Steadman as Mummy Bennett.


Despite being 'brought up' being told the JE/CF was the best, I think 2005 outdoes in every way apart from Mr Wickham.
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Postby Dotsie » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:46 pm

Can't stand the 2005 version. I thought they captured nothing of the delicacy of the time. The Bennets were not up to their armpits in pigshit, and Lizzie and Mr Darcy did not nearly snog in the rain whilst arguing! I seem to remember Lydia being better than the BBC one though.

ETA Of course, neither is a patch on the one that runs in my head when I'm reading it.
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Postby Tiffany » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:48 pm

michelanCello wrote:Pride and Prejudice is one of my favorites... I know it almost by heart... :oops: The movie (with Keira Knightly, but the series with Colin Firth is also very good) is one of my favorite films, one I always play on the background when I've nothing to do... :wink:


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Postby michelanCello » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:58 pm

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I prefer Matthew Macfadyen as Mr. Darcy... maybe it's because I can't put the picture of Colin Firth out of my mind as Bridget Jones' boyfriend... (mind you, he's Mr Darcy there too)
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