Favourite bit of Unseen Academicals (may contain spoilers)

[sheilaj]

I believe UA is the first TP book with a gay character (correct me if I'm wrong). The joke about rowing made me laugh.

Do the "ladies" of the "Galah" who Rincewind meet in Fourecks count?

[poohcarrot]

OK. Second book them.

[Penfold]

I beg to differ in that transvestitism(?) is not the same as being gay. For example, the comedien and actor Eddie Izzard is well known for cross dressing, but maintains in interviews on the subject that he is straight.

In his show, Dress to Kill, Izzard describes himself as an "executive", "action" and "professional" transvestite, as "a male tomboy" rather than a drag queen or a "weirdo" transvestite (he cites J. Edgar Hoover and Hermann Göring as examples of the latter). He regularly cross-dresses both on and off stage and makes it clear that cross-dressing is, for him, neither a part of his performance nor a sexual fetish — he simply enjoys wearing make-up and clothing that is traditionally perceived in the West as female-only. He remarks in his show Unrepeatable, "Women wear what they want and so do I." According to Izzard, "Most transvestites fancy women." [Dress to Kill, 1999] He dismisses claims that he is a male homosexual, saying he is "a straight transvestite or a male lesbian." He has also described himself as "a lesbian trapped in a man's body," transgender, and "a complete boy plus half a girl."

[poohcarrot]

So there!

[Penfold]

[Jan Van Quirm]

Lest anyone has missed the thrust of this argument... deconstruct THIS
Being a transvestite (see wikionary) in most cases has nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality and nothing at all to do with transgender issues.

Case in point is Mr Mercury who was most definitely gay, a vision in a tatty pink woolly and short leather-effect skirt with slipping black bra straps ironically hoovering whilst dressed as cheap tart? He kept his 'stache' on for the dress up and shaved it off for the fantasy... this is not a man who wants to be a woman

The other 3 are clothed in more mainstream 'trannie' garb and it's in fact John Deacon who's probably the closest to a true transexual in that he makes a pretty convincing Granny albeit an under-nourished Fleet St one.



Brian May ditto but not so good - no balloon breasts and 'easy' slut mother get-up. Nice touch with the bunny slippers.

Roger Taylor - classic fancy dress wear. Worryingly gorgeous however - I still fancied him!

Most male transvestites 'do it' 'cos they want the fantasy not the reality - that and they get to wear silky knickers, garters etc

[Tonyblack]

Who do you mean in UA as being gay?

I think there's possibly 3 gay people mentioned - one of which is based on a real person (and Pratchett fan) who is gay.

[BatrickPatrick]

I liked the Megapode. :3

And all this talk of cross dressing is giving me Rocky Horror flashbacks

[Tonyblack]

Did you know there really is such a thing as a megapode?

[BatrickPatrick]

It doesn't look like a wizard at all

[poohcarrot]

Who do you mean in UA as being gay?

I think there's possibly 3 gay people mentioned

I mean the three you mean.

[joemcf]

Who do you mean in UA as being gay?

I think there's possibly 3 gay people mentioned

I mean the three you mean.

Very sneaky. So do i. Thats who i meant too.

[poohcarrot]

Pepe, Bengo & Madame Sharn.

[high eight]

I believe UA is the first TP book with a gay character (correct me if I'm wrong). The joke about rowing made me laugh.

Do the "ladies" of the "Galah" who Rincewind meet in Fourecks count?

Lofty and Tonker?

[LilMaibe]

Pushing this soley for the reason that someone explains the rowing joke to me (we had a horrible translator for the book in german)