Favourite bit of Unseen Academicals (may contain spoilers)

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Postby sheilaj » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:03 am

poohcarrot wrote:I believe UA is the first TP book with a gay character (correct me if I'm wrong). The joke about rowing made me laugh. :lol:


Do the "ladies" of the "Galah" who Rincewind meet in Fourecks count?
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Postby poohcarrot » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:10 am

:shock: OK. Second book them. :lol:
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Postby Penfold » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:57 am

I beg to differ in that transvestitism(?) is not the same as being gay. For example, the comedien and actor Eddie Izzard is well known for cross dressing, but maintains in interviews on the subject that he is straight.

Wikipedia wrote:In his show, Dress to Kill, Izzard describes himself as an "executive", "action" and "professional" transvestite, as "a male tomboy" rather than a drag queen or a "weirdo" transvestite (he cites J. Edgar Hoover and Hermann Göring as examples of the latter). He regularly cross-dresses both on and off stage and makes it clear that cross-dressing is, for him, neither a part of his performance nor a sexual fetish — he simply enjoys wearing make-up and clothing that is traditionally perceived in the West as female-only. He remarks in his show Unrepeatable, "Women wear what they want and so do I." According to Izzard, "Most transvestites fancy women." [Dress to Kill, 1999] He dismisses claims that he is a male homosexual, saying he is "a straight transvestite or a male lesbian." He has also described himself as "a lesbian trapped in a man's body," transgender, and "a complete boy plus half a girl."
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Postby poohcarrot » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:46 am

So there! :lol:
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Postby Penfold » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:49 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:58 am

Lest anyone has missed the thrust of this argument... deconstruct THIS
Being a transvestite (see wikionary) in most cases has nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality and nothing at all to do with transgender issues.

Case in point is Mr Mercury who was most definitely gay, a vision in a tatty pink woolly and short leather-effect skirt with slipping black bra straps ironically hoovering whilst dressed as cheap tart? He kept his 'stache' on for the dress up and shaved it off for the fantasy... this is not a man who wants to be a woman :wink:

The other 3 are clothed in more mainstream 'trannie' garb and it's in fact John Deacon who's probably the closest to a true transexual in that he makes a pretty convincing Granny albeit an under-nourished Fleet St one. :P

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Brian May ditto but not so good - no balloon breasts and 'easy' slut mother get-up. Nice touch with the bunny slippers. :lol:

Roger Taylor - classic fancy dress wear. Worryingly gorgeous however - I still fancied him! :shock:

Most male transvestites 'do it' 'cos they want the fantasy not the reality - that and they get to wear silky knickers, garters etc :roll: :twisted:
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Postby Tonyblack » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:34 pm

Who do you mean in UA as being gay?

I think there's possibly 3 gay people mentioned - one of which is based on a real person (and Pratchett fan) who is gay. :?
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Postby BatrickPatrick » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:01 pm

I liked the Megapode. :3

And all this talk of cross dressing is giving me Rocky Horror flashbacks :D
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Postby Tonyblack » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:24 pm

Did you know there really is such a thing as a megapode? :D
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Postby BatrickPatrick » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:02 pm

It doesn't look like a wizard at all :(
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Postby poohcarrot » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:17 pm

Tonyblack wrote:Who do you mean in UA as being gay?

I think there's possibly 3 gay people mentioned

I mean the three you mean. :P
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Postby joemcf » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:48 pm

poohcarrot wrote:
Tonyblack wrote:Who do you mean in UA as being gay?

I think there's possibly 3 gay people mentioned

I mean the three you mean. :P


Very sneaky. So do i. Thats who i meant too. :roll:
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Postby poohcarrot » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:10 pm

Pepe, Bengo & Madame Sharn.
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Postby high eight » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:56 pm

sheilaj wrote:
poohcarrot wrote:I believe UA is the first TP book with a gay character (correct me if I'm wrong). The joke about rowing made me laugh. :lol:


Do the "ladies" of the "Galah" who Rincewind meet in Fourecks count?



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Postby LilMaibe » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:08 am

Pushing this soley for the reason that someone explains the rowing joke to me (we had a horrible translator for the book in german)
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