Carpe Jugulum Discussion *spoilers*

[poohcarrot]

As for the rest - that's just faulty memory and making things up as I go - been around pooh far too long now

...but I've been doing it all my life, so I've got the hang of it by now.

[Jan Van Quirm]

*lost in admiration of the master...* :roll:

[raisindot]

But they're a whole lot sneakier and nastier...

Females aren't necessarily as deadly or as brave as the male...

Oh, I don't know about that. No man could put up with the bravery involved in delivering a child and Livia (Augustus's wife) was pretty deadly when it came to killing off family members (if you believe Tacitus).

But they're a whole lot sneakier and nastier...

Wouldn't even categorize that as opinion but as an irrefutable fact!



J-I-B

[Jan Van Quirm]

Oh Jeff!

C'mon! Capitulation so soon? You can maintain and defend your stance on Nanny much better than that surely!?

[raisindot]

Oh Jeff!

C'mon! Capitulation so soon? You can maintain and defend your stance on Nanny much better than that surely!?

Na-ah. I'm too afraid of getting sneaked and nastied upon.

J-I-B

[Jan Van Quirm]

Dang! - you're no fun at all!

[Ponder Stibbons]

Thanks, jan, on the borrowing thing. And the whack

Well, earth goddess Nanny Ogg; discriminates upon offerings, and fights like someone who's got 6billion year old family members

[Jan Van Quirm]

fights like someone who's got 6billion year old family members

Some of them volcanic?

[Ponder Stibbons]

In what way?

[Jan Van Quirm]

Well, earth goddess Nanny Ogg; discriminates upon offerings, and fights like someone who's got 6billion year old family members

Was there any plant life, bacteria or even single-celled gloopy animals around 6 billion years ago (certainly not if you subscribe to Creationism)? - as for vertebrates... Nope!

[Ponder Stibbons]

I didnt say they have to be vertaebrates. Or even breathing

[Jan Van Quirm]

Well with pandemic vulcanism the ash would be at least apatosaurus high so I can see how she only knows how to fight dirty!

[Tonyblack]

See, Cool Middle Name - the thread works just fine.

[Cool Middle Name]

Thank you ^^ I know why now, the link led me to the Minisites version and clicking Reply led me to the index.

Well, I reckon Terry Pratchett encapsulated the philosophical dilemmas Granny and Mightily Oats were facing against themselves in this novel. He entertained us with the Bi-polarity of Agnes/Perdita and the Oggish humor of Nanny.

The ideas about 'Right and wrong' brought the mind to much consideration of identity and purpose, and practical common sense. We see one argument of Oats with himself and during that he almost panicked about the truth of Om.
It was a nice touch to 'Make a big light' with the Om-ble, and see his belief in the god rise to the surface (without requiring a booming voice from the sky).
Carpe Jugulum's Omnian beliefs were an obvious parody of Christianity, so it wouldnt be surprising for it to have recieved much criticism because of this. However, I'm an athiest and I can't deny that this was a thoroughly engrossing, entertaining story.

Am I the only one to notice that Twilight carries many elements from this book (the whole Vlad being attracted to Agnes because of her mind being blocked thing, the 'Meeting Family, 'Flying Through The Forests' etc.)? I wonder if Stephenie Meyer had ever read Carpe Jugulum before she wrote the books. Or are these in practically all vampire stories?

[Tonyblack]

I've never been inclined to read the Twilight books, so I couldn't comment on that. But in some ways, Terry is writing a parody on vampire books and films with this book. All the stuff we 'know' about vampires and how they can be destroyed is turned upside down somewhat. In many ways all vampire stories are going to be reflections of each other.