Carpe Jugulum Discussion *spoilers*

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Postby poohcarrot » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:17 pm

Jan Van Quirm wrote:
As for the rest - that's just faulty memory and making things up as I go - been around pooh far too long now :roll:


...but I've been doing it all my life, so I've got the hang of it by now. :lol:
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:19 pm

*lost in admiration of the master...* :roll: :lol:
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Postby raisindot » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:30 pm

Jan Van Quirm wrote:But they're a whole lot sneakier and nastier... :wink:


Jan Van Quirm wrote:Females aren't necessarily as deadly or as brave as the male...


Oh, I don't know about that. No man could put up with the bravery involved in delivering a child and Livia (Augustus's wife) was pretty deadly when it came to killing off family members (if you believe Tacitus).

Jan Van Quirm wrote:But they're a whole lot sneakier and nastier... :wink:


Wouldn't even categorize that as opinion but as an irrefutable fact!

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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:41 pm

Oh Jeff! :shock: :(

C'mon! :twisted: Capitulation so soon? You can maintain and defend your stance on Nanny much better than that surely!? 8) :wink:
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Postby raisindot » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:00 pm

Jan Van Quirm wrote:Oh Jeff! :shock: :(

C'mon! :twisted: Capitulation so soon? You can maintain and defend your stance on Nanny much better than that surely!? 8) :wink:


Na-ah. I'm too afraid of getting sneaked and nastied upon. :mrgreen:

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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:21 pm

Dang! - you're no fun at all! :lol:
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Postby Ponder Stibbons » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:53 am

Thanks, jan, on the borrowing thing. And the whack :wink:

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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:33 am

Ponder Stibbons wrote: fights like someone who's got 6billion year old family members

Some of them volcanic? :lol:
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Postby Ponder Stibbons » Sat May 01, 2010 9:36 am

:lol: In what way?
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Sat May 01, 2010 10:37 am

Ponder Stibbons wrote:Well, earth goddess Nanny Ogg; discriminates upon offerings, and fights like someone who's got 6billion year old family members

Was there any plant life, bacteria or even single-celled gloopy animals around 6 billion years ago (certainly not if you subscribe to Creationism)? - as for vertebrates... Nope! :lol: :wink:
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Postby Ponder Stibbons » Sun May 02, 2010 11:52 am

I didnt say they have to be vertaebrates. :lol: Or even breathing :wink:
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Sun May 02, 2010 12:15 pm

Well with pandemic vulcanism the ash would be at least apatosaurus high so I can see how she only knows how to fight dirty! :P
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Postby Tonyblack » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:17 pm

See, Cool Middle Name - the thread works just fine. :wink:
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Postby Cool Middle Name » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:07 pm

Thank you ^^ I know why now, the link led me to the Minisites version and clicking Reply led me to the index. :P

Well, I reckon Terry Pratchett encapsulated the philosophical dilemmas Granny and Mightily Oats were facing against themselves in this novel. He entertained us with the Bi-polarity of Agnes/Perdita and the Oggish humor of Nanny.

The ideas about 'Right and wrong' brought the mind to much consideration of identity and purpose, and practical common sense. We see one argument of Oats with himself and during that he almost panicked about the truth of Om.
It was a nice touch to 'Make a big light' with the Om-ble, and see his belief in the god rise to the surface (without requiring a booming voice from the sky).
Carpe Jugulum's Omnian beliefs were an obvious parody of Christianity, so it wouldnt be surprising for it to have recieved much criticism because of this. However, I'm an athiest and I can't deny that this was a thoroughly engrossing, entertaining story.

Am I the only one to notice that Twilight carries many elements from this book (the whole Vlad being attracted to Agnes because of her mind being blocked thing, the 'Meeting Family, 'Flying Through The Forests' etc.)? I wonder if Stephenie Meyer had ever read Carpe Jugulum before she wrote the books. Or are these in practically all vampire stories?
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Postby Tonyblack » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:47 pm

I've never been inclined to read the Twilight books, so I couldn't comment on that. But in some ways, Terry is writing a parody on vampire books and films with this book. All the stuff we 'know' about vampires and how they can be destroyed is turned upside down somewhat. In many ways all vampire stories are going to be reflections of each other. :D
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