UK Uncorrected Proofs - The Definitive Guide

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Postby poohcarrot » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:15 pm

I don't reckon the price is too high, and I reckon you'll get some bids. :P
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Postby sp1600 uk » Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:28 pm

the price is what its worth to me . at less than that im more than happy to keep it wrapped in plastic on my bookshelf with my collection of signed first editions which is complete , ive only put it on ebay for what ive been offered for it by a bookshop so i kind of feel theres a bit more mileage in it and either this post has proved popular of after 1 day 97 watchers are intersted time will tell
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Postby The_Discworldaholic » Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:52 pm

poohcarrot wrote:I don't reckon the price is too high, and I reckon you'll get some bids. :P


i think you read me wrong, the price is ok and if auction eneded and that was the final price id be happy with that, all i meant was the start price was to high you should have put it on at 99p start with a reserve that way youd get heaps more bidders trust me ive done well over a 1000 sales and thats the way its always worked best for me.
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Postby sp1600 uk » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:26 pm

thank you ive taken your advice and revised the sale , really having second thoughts though , one of those books thats lived on my bookshelf and never been openend by me , so wanted to read it it and look for the typo,s and mistakes but have resisted it for five years ,amazing what books you can find in a charity shop in 2005 lol
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Postby sp1600 uk » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:22 pm

well tried ebay and only reached 52 quid ,to be honest i would rather leave it on my bookshelf for that ,as i am not giving it away its worth more to me than that
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Postby Tonyblack » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:56 pm

sp1600 uk wrote:well tried ebay and only reached 52 quid ,to be honest i would rather leave it on my bookshelf for that ,as i am not giving it away its worth more to me than that
I can't say I blame you at that price. I think this is rather an unusual collecting area as far as books go and therefore it's possible to get bargains.

I think this may be a growth area is the future though. :)
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Postby Ohnhai » Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:43 pm

Still amazed that a friend gave me a copy of the Guards Guards Uncorrected Proof.

Mind you he was reciprocating my unsolicited gift of the first two Guitar hero games and their associated hardware....

Not selling my UP ever... Might give it away, but not sell it.
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Re: UK Uncorrected Proofs - The Definitive Guide

Postby poohcarrot » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:05 pm

poohcarrot wrote:UK UNCORRECTED PROOFS - THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE

UK Uncorrected proofs should not be confused with the US Advanced Readers Copy (ARC). The US ARCs are not as rare and while I have no figures of quantity, I believe they number in the thousands.

Some people call the UK Uncorrected proofs "the true first editions". While they are correct, they are also talking pretentious claptrap. An uncorrected proof comes out prior to the first edition and is given to book critics, people to proof read etc.

The Colour of Magic First Edition Hardback is one of the most prized Discworld books to own. Only 506 copies were published and they go for mega-bucks. I know of this one at Wrigley Cross books which is on sale for $18,000.

http://www.wrigleycrossbooks.com/?CLSN_ ... rch=Search

The thing about Uncorrected proofs is that they are actually rarer than First Edition Discworld books, including the limited edition slip-cased publications and even the COM Hardback itself.

The following figures are from the Colin Smith site and show how many proofs of each book were printed and which ones are available;

The smilie denotes proofs I own.

The Colour of Magic 0
The Light Fantastic 0
Equal Rites (Between 50-100)
Mort 100 :P
Sourcery ? 61 page sampler
Wyrd Sisters 100 :P
Pyramids 100 :P
Guards! Guards! 100 :P
Eric 0
Moving Pictures 100
Reaper Man 150
Witches Abroad 100
Small Gods 100 :P
Lords and Ladies 116 :P
Men At Arms 150 :P
Soul Music 146 :P
Interesting Times 250 :P
Maskerade 189 :P
Feet of Clay 167 :P
Hogfather 196 :P
Jingo 170 :P
The Last Continent 100
Carpe Jugulum 148 :P
The Fifth Elephant 155 :P
The Truth 370 :P
Thief of Time 100 :P
The Last Hero ? 16 page sampler :P
The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents 430 :P
Nightwatch 140 :P
The Wee Free Men 200 :P
Monstrous Regiment ?
A Hat Full of Sky 490 :P
Going Postal 727 :P
Thud! 108 :P
Wintersmith ? :P
Making Money 150
Unseen Academicals 120 :P
I Shall Wear Midnight 140 :P
Ladt Hero sampler :P
Good Omens Less than 100 :P
Good Omens Sampler ? :P
Nation 120 :P
The Science of Discworld 500 (88 page sampler) :P
The Science of Discworld II: the Globe 500 :P
Sea and Little Fishes 1000 (2 story double sampler, 200 double signed) :P
The Science of Discworld III: Darwin's Watch 0
Discworld Companion ?
Truckers ?
Diggers ?
Wings ?
Johnny and the bomb ?
Johnny and the dead ?
Only you can save mankind ?

Using the Wyrd Sisters Uncorrected proof as an example.
It was printed in 1988 and was limited to only 100 copies.
How many copies still exist today, 22 years later? Who knows?
How many copies are in pristine, unread condition? Who knows?
How many copies are signed and dedicated by Sir Pterry? Who knows?
Needless to say, the figure is probably very small indeed.

Up to Jingo (and possibly Last Continent - though I don't have that proof so I'm not sure) Discworld books were published by Gollancz. They then changed to Doubleday. The Gollancz proofs are plain white, blue, purple or cream, whereas the later ones are oversized Softbacks with the same cover as the First Edition.

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Because they are "uncorrected", they contain spelling and grammar mistakes and bits which are not in the published First Edition.

I started collecting them a year ago, they are fun to track down (keep your eyes on ebay), haggle over the price, and each one you get is an historic piece of Discworld memorabilia. I now have 30, a lot are signed and inscribed, the most I paid for one was 500 pounds for a Nation proof. A lot of money I hear you say, but the money went to Alzheimers and my Nation proof is signed and dedicated to my two daughters with the inscription "Imo made YOU clever enough to work out that he doesn't exist." It also came with a letter of autheticity signed by the man himself, stating it is one of only 120. If I ever were to sell it in ten years' time, what sort of price do you think it would fetch?

They are not cheap to buy. Prices start from around 50 pounds going up to $2,000 for the Equal Rites proof (see the Wrigley Cross link), but they are still relatively unknown to most collectors, so should you wish for a possibly excellent investment, I would highly recommend getting your hands on as many as possible.
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Postby The Mad Collector » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:17 am

I only have one early proof and as it is unusual in having an illustrated cover it is worth including here. I only bought it because it has an article by Terry in it describing the Discworld and how it has developed over the first 5 books which has never been reproduced. It was even left out of Once More With Footnotes.

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Postby poohcarrot » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:40 am

I haven't got that one, one reason being is that's it's only a sampler and not the whole book. :D
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Postby The Mad Collector » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:27 am

poohcarrot wrote:I haven't got that one, one reason being is that's it's only a sampler and not the whole book. :D


But you have the other samplers :D
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Postby poohcarrot » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:35 pm

It's also expensive. :D
I'll buy it one day. 8)
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Postby Tonyblack » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:49 pm

poohcarrot wrote:It's also expensive. :D
I'll buy it one day. 8)
Oh yes - one day. :lol:
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Postby The Mad Collector » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:13 pm

:D :D
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Postby poohcarrot » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:46 am

Ha! Just Paypaled the dosh to the seller. :D

Very soon I will be in possesion of one signed and inscribed Sourcery proof PLUS a promotional poster for the book.

She will be mine. Oh yes, she will be mine! :lol:
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