Fljotsdale wrote: bearing in mind the whole time that the bible also says it is 'impossible for god to lie' (Hebrews 6:18 ),
...but how do you know that is true? It could be a lie.
Oh yes, indeedy!
That is the whole point of the bit of the bible I suggested the thread starter should read.
I should also have mentioned that the bible says 'God hates a liar' and the liar is castigated frequently in scripture as something detestable to god.
Yet, there, in 1 Kings 22:19-23, we have god commending an angel who suggests - following a request by god - that he go out and deceive the prophets of an enemy by giving them false prophcies to speak; the passage ends thus:
"And now here God has put a deceptive spirit into the mouth of all these prophets of yours; but God himself has spoken calamity concerning you."
Hmm... maybe god didn't actually speak the lie himself... but to ask an angel to go out and tell lies for him? Looks to me like a crook getting another crook to do the dirty work so he can keep his own hands clean. And he certainly takes the dubious 'credit' for it!
And when you take into account all the comments the bible makes about liars being detestable to god, and not entering into his kingdom,,, where does that leave that dutiful, obedient angel (or spirit)?
The bible says that, concerning the Holy City (Heavenly Jerusalem, as described in Revelation) "Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and the fornicators and the murderers and the idolaters and eveyone liking and carrying on a lie." (Revelation 22:15)
So, if nothing else, the bible god is something of a big fat hypocrite, imo.
Now tell me this: Who does the bible tell us is the Father of Lies? And where does that leave the bible god?
Another thought has just struck me. The bible calls god the Alpha and the Omega - the beginning and the end. But it could also mean opposite poles, couldn't it? Good and Evil, for instance... Go(o)d and (D)evil, maybe...
It's a thought.
Not that I believe in any of 'em, personally. I'm an Anti-Theist.
I found evolution more magnificent than Eden; I found it more wonderful to be a rising ape that a falling angel.
Terry Pratchett on Darwin's Evolution of Species