Unseen Academicals - Revelation!

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Unseen Academicals - Revelation!

Postby poohcarrot » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:44 am

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At first all dwarves wore male clothes.

Then Cheery started wearing female clothes and other female dwarves followed suit.

The next logical step to make the circle complete, is for male dwarves to start wearing female dwarves' clothes too.

Therefore I believe Madame (and Pepe) is male! 8)
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Postby Dotsie » Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:01 am

You're a genius! :lol:
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Postby Tonyblack » Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:56 pm

The question is though - is Pepe a dwarf or a human who is very short? It seems to me that he's a human suffering from dwarfism rather than a dwarf acting like a human. :P
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Postby poohcarrot » Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:57 pm

:roll: And there's me thinking I was stating something not obvious. :roll:

So what line gave it away for you Dotsie?

I thought at first Madame was a "Fag Hag". (BTW I mean absolutely no offence by this term and you'll see the following Wiki quote shows it to be equally embraced and objected to). If you check "Fag Hag on wiki, it's quite an interesting article.

Wiki wrote:Fag hag is a gay slang phrase referring to a woman who either associates mostly or exclusively with gay and bisexual men, or has gay and bisexual men as close friends. The phrase originated in gay male culture in the United States and was historically an insult. Some women who associate with gay men object to being called fag hags, while others embrace the term.
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Postby poohcarrot » Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:59 pm

Pepe is a human. I remember him saying he was somewhere.
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Postby Quark » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:05 pm

It's an interesting idea, Pooh. I'll have to re-read UA and see what I can pick up about it.
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Postby poohcarrot » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:08 pm

He gives it away near the end. 8)
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Postby Penfold » Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:53 pm

Makes me wonder whether Rhys, Low King of the Dwarfs is actually Rhys, Low Queen of the Dwarfs? :?
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Postby Dotsie » Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:50 pm

Wasn't that mentioned in Fifth Elephant already though? Pretty sure Terry said she's a she.
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Postby raisindot » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:37 pm

Penfold wrote:Makes me wonder whether Rhys, Low King of the Dwarfs is actually Rhys, Low Queen of the Dwarfs? :?


Rhys is definitely female. S/he so far as admitted it to when s/he was giving Cheery her bag of gold during the "rewards" ceremony at the end TFE. The entire AM party heard it as well.

That's why Rhys's scene in UA where s/he is asking about the new comfymail was funny and perfect in-joke for TFE readers. If you hadn't read TFE, the joke is lost.

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Postby Penfold » Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:21 am

Raisindot wrote:

"Rhys is definitely female. S/he so far as admitted it to when s/he was giving Cheery her bag of gold during the "rewards" ceremony at the end TFE. The entire AM party heard it as well".

Dotsie Wrote:

Wasn't that mentioned in Fifth Elephant already though? Pretty sure Terry said she's a she.

Oops :oops: Yes, I forgot about that, its been ages since I read TFE.
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Postby Dotsie » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:20 am

:lol: Don't worry about it!
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Postby Penfold » Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:15 pm

Thanks Dotsie.

No worries - its a good excuse (not that one's really needed) to read TFE again.
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Postby lyn » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:37 am

Pepe told Glenda that he joined the Dwarfs - you just have to believe some things and you're a dwarf. and know the right people. and Madame knew the right things about the right people.
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Postby Zephyr » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:42 pm

lyn wrote:Pepe told Glenda that he joined the Dwarfs - you just have to believe some things and you're a dwarf. and know the right people. and Madame knew the right things about the right people.


Yes, early on in the book when Glenda wakes up from her sherry-induced nap at the micro-mail show and stumbles into the back alley area. I think Pepe said he was a Cockbill Street boy (I think, could be a different area) that joined the Dwarfs when Glenda makes a reference to Uberweld.

Later on, Glenda observes Madam and Pepe holding hands.
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