Doughnut Jimmy wrote:kakaze wrote:poohcarrot wrote:If nobody was brainwashed as a child and everyone decided for themselves, then it'd be just like Japan, where most people are atheists.
So how many atheists do you think there'd be? I think they'd probably in the majority.
I think they're in the majority now. There's people who admit they're atheists, and people who claim to be religious, but don't follow the tennants of their religion (sometimes known, here anyway, as "Sunday Christians").
I think there's a big difference though Kakaze between people who don't practise their religion on a day to day basis and atheists, if you believe there's a "higher being" and an afterlife it give you a different perspective on some things - or at least that's what I've found when you run an innocent conversation into a deep, deep hole by assuming friends have the same basice beliefs (or lack thereof) as you
kakaze wrote:The difference between people who don't practice their religion on a day to day basis and atheists, is that atheists admit that they don't know what to believe in.
Dotsie wrote:kakaze wrote:The difference between people who don't practice their religion on a day to day basis and atheists, is that atheists admit that they don't know what to believe in.
No that's agnostics. Atheists don't believe in gods in any form (higher beings, beards in the sky, space turtles etc).
I agree with you on everything else though. I have more time for those that actually practice religion than those who just can't bear the thought that they won't go to heaven, and think that saying they believe in God will get them in.
kakaze wrote:Yeah, I guess agnostic is a better term. What I was trying to express is that there isn't actually any such thing as "atheist", except as a term used to describe a person who's chosen Science as his religion.
Doughnut Jimmy wrote:Atheism is a seperate thing, a belief (not knowledge) that there is no "god or gods". Quite distinct from agnostics.
poohcarrot wrote:An 84 year-old woman was pulled alive from the wreckage that used to be Haiti, 11 days after the earthquake. "It's a miracle!" the media screams. "This proves there is a caring and just God," the Fundis scream.
However, as TP points out, a miracle doesn't have to be good. The earthquake itself was a miracle. An act of God. Therefore surely a God that can kill up to 200,000 of the poorest people on the planet, most of who were Catholics, has just proved that he/she isn't a caring and just God. You want concrete proof there is no God? There it is.
I quite agree!Tina a.k.a.SusanSto.Helit wrote:Aargh!!! It Does Not Matter!!! We are all headed in the SAME Direction ANYWAY! This is about the Book Pyramids.................
Tonyblack wrote:Does anyone think that Terry is parodying the British Royal family when Teppic does his tour of the embalmers/model makers/pyramid builders?
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