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Re: The Audio Books

Postby raisindot » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:57 pm

Hellblazer1138 wrote:I must be one of the few people who prefers Nigel Planer to Stephen Briggs. Besides doing the best job with the Witches books and all the troll characters, his voices for Nobby Nobbs & Fred Colon are far superior to Briggs'.
And personally, I thought Planer did a better job with Carrot than Briggs. I always assumed he was supposed to sound a little stupid. Briggs' voice for him is too stiff for my tastes. I have to admit his voice for Vimes is better.
One last complaint: for some reason the way Briggs says Ankh-Morpork bothers me. Trivial I know.


It's funny how subjective this is. While I think Planer does the witches better, I think Brigg's Detritus is far better than Planer's. Briggs voices him as kind of a big, "percussion-voiced" ox who is trying to hide his innate intelligence and irony under a veneer of 'fickness.' The best example of this I can point out is in Snuff when he is responding to the Koom Valley's socialite's statement that she's cleaned out the stables for Brick and Detritus. The way Briggs voices Detritus classic diplomatic response, "It's so kind when people take the time to fink about these things" gets to the essence of the troll. Planer, on the other hand, voices Detritus like a scratchy voiced lower level street thief.

Same with Planer's Colon. His makes Colon sound like a sniveling would-be mugger, whereas Brigg' voices him like the pompous older windbag he really is.

I prefer Briggs' Carrot as well. Planer voices him like a befuddled teenager who's always trying to please. Briggs really gets to the essence of Carrot's having an innate authority, keenness and suppressed menace hiding behind the innocent mask. The last scene of The Fifth Elephant, when Carrot manipulates Nobby and Colon into "re-recruiting" the striking Watch, shows Briggs' Carrot at his best.

I could go on and on. Briggs' Dorfl is a large, formally speaking, meditative creature; Planer's sounds like a shambling zombie. Planer's Sybil sounds like a stuffed-shirt harpie straight out of a P.G. Wodehouse novel; Briggs's Sybil is far more down to Earth, funny, and sympathetic. Planer's Vetinari, while excellent, accentuates the man's aristocrat bearing, while Briggs's voicing reveals the menace hiding behind the Patrician's even-tempered facade. Planer's Igor (in Carpe Jugulum) sounds like a stupid, pitiful monster; Briggs' Igors are smart, sarcastic, and full of Igorian self confidence.

Beyond the voicing of individual characters, Briggs invents "ethnic" voicing as well. All Uberwaldians, whether they're vampires, werewolves or humans, have that same "Dracula-like" accent. All of his dwarves--even Carrot--speak with a sing-song quality and a specific regional accent. All of the trolls have the same accent.

Don't get me wrong--Planer is a great reader, but for me Briggs really gets to the heart of the characters much better.
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Re: The Audio Books

Postby Who's Wee Dug » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:08 pm

No one does the Feegles better than Briggs, and his Dwarfs sound Welsh. :mrgreen:
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Re: The Audio Books

Postby Hellblazer1138 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:14 pm

raisindot wrote:Briggs voices him as kind of a big, "percussion-voiced" ox who is trying to hide his innate intelligence and irony under a veneer of 'fickness.' [...] Planer, on the other hand, voices Detritus like a scratchy voiced lower level street thief.

raisindot wrote:I prefer Briggs' Carrot as well. Planer voices him like a befuddled teenager who's always trying to please


The funny part about your statements above is that the characters were originally written like that. Detritus didn't start out as a Sergeant, he was a stupid street troll hired for his muscles(Moving Pictures); Carrot was a befuddled teenager at the start of Guards! Guards!. Most of the ones you mention have formed into those rolls over the years.
The thing about Pratchetts Discworld is that it's always evolving. I think the main reason that Planer does such a better job with the first 20 odd books is that they are mostly comedy with a little seriousness thrown in. I can't imagine Briggs trying read Small Gods or any of the Rincewind books(I hate his voice for him. I'm glad Eric was short.) since they have a more comedic feel. The Briggs read books have a more dramatic feel.
The Fifth Elephant, the first book Briggs read(not counting Eric), Vimes kills intentionally for the first time. Compare this with Jingo, just 4 books beforehand, where he is very reluctant to kill anyone.
I'm not a natural killer! See this? See what it says? I'm supposed to keep the peace, I am! If I
kill people to do it, I'm reading the wrong manual!

In the watch books written before The Fifth Elephant he's kind of like Batman, unwilling to kill. By the time we get to Thud! his moral have definitely changed(e.g. the killing of the Dwarves in the caves).

Yes, Briggs does a better Feegle, but the only chance Planer had at them was when they were little more than stereotypes to move Carpe Jugulum along.
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Re: The Audio Books

Postby OcarinaMaker » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:16 am

I must be one of the few people who prefers Nigel Planer to Stephen Briggs. Besides doing the best job with the Witches books and all the troll characters, his voices for Nobby Nobbs & Fred Colon are far superior to Briggs'.
And personally, I thought Planer did a better job with Carrot than Briggs. I always assumed he was supposed to sound a little stupid. Briggs' voice for him is too stiff for my tastes.


Yes, I absolutely agree with you about the witches books and Nobby Nobbs and Fred Colon. Also, I agree that Carrot should sound somewhat naive and simple, while not truly being so. Planer conveyed the attributes I thought those characters would have.
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Re: The Audio Books

Postby Who's Wee Dug » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:07 pm

I have bought Raising Steam unabridged version as well as the hardback. :D
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Re: The Audio Books

Postby Tonyblack » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:40 pm

Welcome to the site, OcarinaMaker! :D
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