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You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby KnightOfFewWords » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:45 pm

Possibly we should call the whole thing off.

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Not a GM plant, but a potato plant and a tomato plant grafted together - more details here. personally, I think I'll hold out until the three-bean salad plant is available.
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby Tonyblack » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:42 pm

:lol: A neat idea - twice the crop for the same amount of space.
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby Ghost » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:13 pm

yes except it takes twice the nutrition from the soil to grow the same amount of crop
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby Catch-up » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:37 pm

Wow! Very cool.
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby hnorwood » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:54 pm

The tomato and potato are both members of the Solanum family, so it is possible that one day they may produce a plant that bears both tomatoes and potatoes.

Of course, the Nightshades are also members of the Solanum family....
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby janet » Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:13 am

hnorwood wrote:The tomato and potato are both members of the Solanum family, so it is possible that one day they may produce a plant that bears both tomatoes and potatoes.

Of course, the Nightshades are also members of the Solanum family....

.......and all contain the toxic alkaloid mentioned which makes them all poisonous in some degree but most people can tolerate it with no ill effects.
No wonder it took 10 years to develop. They couldn't have chosen a more dodgy genus to work with.
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby Katblossom » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:20 pm

Clever idea. Saw that on the One show. I suppose they could graft absolutely anything in the future, if they haven't decided to GM it in the first place? I don't have a problem with GM really.
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby Vena Ravenhaired » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:37 pm

It isn't new at all. I learned how to do it in school nearly 50 years ago, and I taught my son to do it. He was in Agricultural College at the time and produced several plants. The College was quite interested.

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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby ChristianBecker » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:33 am

Only certain parts of tomatoes and potatoes contain the alkaloid in significant amounts, i.e. the green parts (belonging to the shoot), the berries of (in case of the potato) and probably the leaves.. This is why you don't eat potatoes that have been in the light for too long. They turn green (way before mould turns them green, that is) and the concentration of the alkaloid gets higher.
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby janet » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:15 pm

Yep, CB, I knew that already but some people have an unfortunate allergy to the entire Solanum family of plants due to being hypersensitive to those alkaliods......or so I'm led to understand. It means the poor things will never be able to enjoy eating anything containing potatoes or tomatoes. That is VERY sad :cry:
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby ChristianBecker » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:59 am

janet wrote:That is VERY sad :cry:

Indeed! :shock:

Do you have any sources about that? Studying pharmacy I'm very interested in such topics. Moreover an alkaloid as cause of an allergic reaction is rather unusual (possible, though).
Searching on google I found some articles but one did describe the symptoms and individual cases in detail, yet didn't mention the (probable) culprit, the other seemed uninformed, counting cherries and pears among others as members of the Solanaceae.
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby Penfold » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:41 am

An old friend of mine was allergic to any red coloured fruit or vegetable like tomato and peppers (if I remember correctly, carrots as well). According to her, there was something in the 'red' that caused it. Unfortunately, since I lost contact when I left South Africa I cannot get any more details than that. :)
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Re: You Say Tomato, I Say Potato

Postby janet » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:59 am

CB, I'm remembering something from all the research I did to try and help my mum. She had a very aggressive form of rheumatoid arthritis. As she died in 1999 there will be theories i read then which have been either proved of dismissed by now. So the solanum allergy was being investigated as there was a strong indication, at that time, that it exacerbated symptoms. It was also being suggested that solanums (nightshades) may trigger unpleasant IBS-type symptoms in many people. Having written, that I googled and found quite a lot on allergy to Solanum melangena aka eggplant aka aubergine.
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