The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

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Re: The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

Postby DaveC » Fri May 31, 2013 9:00 am

I got The Compleat Ankh-Morpork for my birthday and am slowly getting through it, it's not riveting but I love how dense and detailed it is and will sit nicely with the other maps and the few of the diaries that I have.
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Re: The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

Postby Who's Wee Dug » Fri May 31, 2013 8:54 pm

It's quite comprehensive Dave more I think for dipping in for small bites at a time, then there is the large scale atlas coming out in the future from Rob and Co at the shop. :D
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Re: The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

Postby Square12 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:33 am

Who's Wee Dug wrote:It's quite comprehensive Dave more I think for dipping in for small bites at a time, then there is the large scale atlas coming out in the future from Rob and Co at the shop. :D

That will be on my to buy list for sure even if they don't use any of my anecdotes from the cunning artificer forum!
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Re: The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

Postby DaveC » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:04 am

Who's Wee Dug wrote:It's quite comprehensive Dave more I think for dipping in for small bites at a time, then there is the large scale atlas coming out in the future from Rob and Co at the shop. :D


Yeah, I'm about a third through at the moment. The atlas sounds awesome, feels like they are just revamping the pre-existing maps, though, first the city, then the atlas. Will there be a new Lancre area soon too incorporate Tiffany's surroundings?
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Re: The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

Postby The Mad Collector » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:09 am

I'm guessing that the other maps will all be covered within the atlas Dave
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Does TCAM mention Slant?

Postby Slantaholic » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:13 pm

Does the Compleat give any updates on the Lawyers Guild at all?

Or give a general indication as to where Mr Slant may reside? I presume he leaves in the City of Ankh somewhere. Are there updates on the richest areas of Ankh-Morpork, or are there any more banks or vaults present?
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Re: The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

Postby DreadfulKata » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:59 pm

Square12 wrote:Also, maybe it's just me but aren't we forgetting the rather important fact that, even as recently as my parents generation non Caucasians were still to a degree a rarity in most western cities and as discworld is at a Victorian era stage in its evolution then it is right, accurate and natural that klatchians and agateans would be a rarity in a place where travelling is still done by horse and cart (if you are lucky) unless you are a magic user.
Having said that were the zoons (the river traders that esk hitches a lift with ER and Vimes encounters Snuff, if memory serves) described as black somewhere?


Ankh-Morpork is only influenced by Victorian society sometimes. It is equally influenced by other cultures/times. And in any case, major Victorian cities weren't as white as you might think. Not only was immigration high, but actually non-white people had been a significant presence in Britain for centuries by the nineteenth century. After all, we had slavery until 1834 - those freed slaves didn't disappear overnight after abolition!

Having said that, with little explicit information on race being given, it comes down to personal interpretation with A-M, and for me it just felt natural that a city whose 'thing' was always how it absorbed everyone from troll to gnome, would also be extremely mixed in its racial makeup. Its cone of the few aspects of the TV adaptations' A-M that I positively liked (rather than felt merely meh about), that the crowds were a pretty mixed bunch.
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Re: The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

Postby DreadfulKata » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:24 pm

Actually I've revised my opinion of the Compleat Ankh-Morpork a lot. I already loved it (and the map in particular is everything my geeky little heart could ever have dreamed of) but as my first post indicates I had some niggles.

I didn't much look at it for months, but getting it off the shelf again I find I've done the book a disservice in my memory. The illustrations are charming and the crowds a lot more diverse than I gave them credit for. Originally I found the directory part a little dull because it hadn't quite clicked in my brain that these aren't whimsical names made up specially for this book, these are all businesses mentioned at some point in the novels themselves. That's pretty cool.

Now I think they ought to publish an accompanying guide to the Guilds and institutions of A-M. There's a brief summary of each Guild in the Compleat A-M, but with 40 books in the series, each Guild has its own eventful history. It would be nice to have them recorded int heir own book. I found myself trying to use the Compleat A-M to check a fact the other day (who preceded Downey as Chief Assassin? Yes, I know, Cruces, I found the info online) and it doesn't go into that detail. Which is fair enough. But I think that means there's room for an accompanying guide... :D
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Re: The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

Postby =Tamar » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:44 pm

DreadfulKata wrote:Now I think they ought to publish an accompanying guide to the Guilds and institutions of A-M. There's a brief summary of each Guild in the Compleat A-M, but with 40 books in the series, each Guild has its own eventful history. It would be nice to have them recorded in their own book. I found myself trying to use the Compleat A-M to check a fact the other day (who preceded Downey as Chief Assassin? Yes, I know, Cruces, I found the info online) and it doesn't go into that detail. Which is fair enough. But I think that means there's room for an accompanying guide... :D


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Re: The Compleat Ankh-Morpork

Postby DaveC » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:40 pm

I think tracking down the diaries serves this purpose as a history of guilds and their characters. I have a few so far.
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