Kat wrote:Moist definitely isn't my favorite Discworld character, but he isn't my least favorite either. I do think he changed somewhat for the better, but I also think he is still basically a con man at the end.
raisindot wrote: Granny Weatherwax rests on the 'edge' between good and evil and is not a particularly "likeable" character (in the way that Nanny Ogg is).
raisindot wrote: I think Pterry's least compelling characters are those who have no moral complexity. Nutt, for example, isn't particularly interesting because he's has no moral ambiguity whatsoever--being an orc isn't a moral flaw.
raisindot wrote:Carrot was largely a cardboard lampoon of the old-style kings until he got an edge in The Fifth Elephant.
raisindot wrote:Moist is pretty much the extreme case of Pterry's moral ambiguity. Moist also symbolizes the "new" Ankh Morpork; a city where entrepreneurs from the working classes with questionable backgrounds (i.e. Harry King, CMOT Dibbler) are replacing the moribund guilds and aristocrats as the economic movers and shakers of the city.
alicenanjing wrote:Adrenaline addict, that's exactly it! That, and an aversion to seeing himself as a goody-goody. I picture him as someone who sees the world as a place where ypur neighbor will swindle you if he can, and so you must swindle him first; and a place where people's greed is only exceeded by their ignorance, so you must outwit them in a sort of preemptive self-defense.
=Tamar wrote:Tonyblack wrote:Yes, he's justified his crime to himself at least.
That was early in the novel, before he found out that he had hurt someone he knew.
Tonyblack wrote:=Tamar wrote:That was early in the novel, before he found out that he had hurt someone he knew.
Yes - this is one of the major themes of the book: his growth as a decent human being using his criminal skills for good.
=Tamar wrote:The progression is fairly direct. First he is upset to realize that he has hurt someone he cares about, then he wants to provide some form of recompense, then he wants to prevent potential losses by people who have come to trust him. He also goes from being the sort of person who would want to learn Gilt's methods to wanting to prove he isn't exactly like Gilt. Without going back to scour the books again, I'm not quite certain that Moist has gotten to the point where he wants to prevent harm even to people he doesn't know, but I think he has, because of his motivation (in MM) for leading Cosmo into the sunlight.
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