I wonder if he will be having eggs with that.Ex-Benedic
raisindot wrote:MongoGutman wrote:Apparantly he's now an Ex-Benedict....
What an awful yolk.
raisindot wrote:Would be nice to have a pope who wasn't a Nazi or didn't protect child abusing priests.
Dotsie wrote:Jan Van Quirm wrote: where's this about the Pope being chosen by god come from?
In the same way that the Bible was written by men, but is the word of God. He has a hand in everything.
Jan Van Quirm wrote:they're still men and women with all their fallibilities, prejudices and shortcomings which admittedly they try to rise above to do god's work supposedly. Nobody believes the man that's currently Pope is literally chosen by god - he's the 'best' person that's electable to the post by the College of Cardinals.
The Pope is infallible actually - everything he does is sanctioned by God. So the choice of men is completely removed from the equation, according to the men involved in the choosing. What we believe as outsiders doesn't matter.
Jan Van Quirm wrote:I didn't ask to be brought up a Catholic but I was never told that the Pope's infallible, just that he's god's representative on earth, so don't try to tell us he's seen as some kind of demi-god by the poor saps who do happen to eat it all up.
Jan Van Quirm wrote:People aren't quite that stupid
Jan Van Quirm wrote: they're now finally thinking about letting the faithful wear something during sex occasionally.
Jan Van Quirm wrote:Ratzinger didn't get to be Pope until he was nearly 80, so up until then he wasn't infallible
Jan Van Quirm wrote:people aren't that bloody stupid.
Jan Van Quirm wrote: where's this about the Pope being chosen by god come from? The Pope's chosen by the College of Cardinals as 'First among Equals'. The only Pope chosen by god (Jesus) was the first one - Peter.
BBC/Religion wrote:Once the Pope has spoken, the First Vatican Council agreed, his definitions "are irreformable of themselves".
Voting on this form of words took place during a thunderstorm. A majority gave their assent but God, some said, was angry.
Routine papal teaching is not therefore infallible and it was not until 1950 that a pope exercised his "infallible magisterium" to declare that the Virgin Mary had been assumed body and soul into heaven. The belief is unsupported in scripture.
Pope John Paul II spoke infallibly once: in 1994 he ruled out the possibility of women ever being ordained and furthermore decreed that Catholics should not even talk about the issue any more. To date (2009) Pope Benedict XVI has not spoken infallibly.
Jan Van Quirm wrote:The Pope's only infallible when he says he is - as in this from the same article
Dotsie wrote:You've never heard of papal infallibility? I've never been a Catholic, and I've heard of it. It doesn't mean he's perfect, just that he's never wrong about doctrine, whatever that doctrine is, including dinosaurs or whatever.
Dotsie wrote:But I won't be given instructions on...when I'm allowed to have sex (except by Mr Dotsie)
Alanz wrote:Who said Religeon doen't start Conflicts well it's having a dam good go on here at the moment
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