simmonds91 wrote:cheery_j. wrote:simmonds91 wrote: on another note id like to say I think being a nazi is fine, as long as they don't kill other people or lash out, everyones entitled to an opinion
That was a joke, wasn't it?
haha, yeah, god forbid people have true freedom, to have their own opinions, likes/hates due to whatever circumstance.
Dotsie wrote:Jan, I wouldn't argue with you over the fact that Ratzinger had a choice of either being Nazi or dying, if he was anyone but the Pope. But how could he deny his God (or rather what his God stands for) to save his own life? Not very Pope-like.
raisin wrote:That said, the Nazis would have never have been able to get away with exterminating millions of Jews if there wasn't already a history of virulent anti-semitism in Germany that Hitler was able to exploit to gain complicit agreement from the German people, even those who weren't Nazis. And certain most government bureacrats in France, Italy and Eastern Europe had no problem letting Germany take care of their centuries old "Jewish problem" and were too often quite willing to round them up and put them on the death trains themselves. Of course, not all Germans or other Europeans were anti-semitic and many did try to help Jews and other minorities escape. However, it's no accident that the largest numbers of Jews were saved in the Scandinavian countries, which historically had a higher degree of tolerance for Jews than the rest of Europe.
Shoot the dictator and prevent the war? But the dictator is merely the tip of the whole festering boil of social pus from which dictators emerge; shoot one, and there'll be another one along in a minute. Shoot him too? Why not shoot everyone and invade Poland? In fifty years', thirty years', ten years' time the world will be very nearly back on its old course. History always has a great weight of inertia.
Dotsie wrote:But to say that The Pope is only human and so can be excused is wrong - he is apparently chosen by God and is infallible, so he is more than human.
raisindot wrote:Jan Van Quirm wrote:We're not implying anything about what you're saying about Benedict the 14 year old Dotsie
Wait a minute--so Dotsie is actually--the POPE???????
Jan Van Quirm wrote: where's this about the Pope being chosen by god come from?
Jan Van Quirm wrote:they're still men and women with all their fallibilities, prejudices and shortcomings which admittedly they try to rise above to do god's work supposedly. Nobody believes the man that's currently Pope is literally chosen by god - he's the 'best' person that's electable to the post by the College of Cardinals.
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