THE HOBBIT ~ Discuss and Spoil!

[Willem]

And I wasn't complaining about Barry Humphries being the Great Goblin. I thought he was absolutely great! I just thought nothing further needed to be said on the subject of his performance. Hell, even his last line when Gandalf guts him is priceless. After all that bluster about how they can't escape, when he gets gutted, he says, casually, "Yep. That'll do it." Black comedy at its finest.

I was kind of hoping for the Great Goblin mentioning that Gandalf shall not pass

I like the Azog stuff in that it explains all the orcses in the book. Instead of 'Gee, aren't there a lot of orcs around?' it's 'Gee, who's sending all these orcs after us?'.

[SimonAtford]

Off to see it again today. Will post some observations when I get back

[SimonAtford]

Very much work in progress but I think I might have the beginnings of "The Hobbit Movie Drinking Game"

Rule 1: Take a drink every time somebody falls off a cliff or otherwise drops from a great height.

Rule 2: Take another drink if they survive unscathed.

Rule 3: Take a drink every time Thorin tells Bilbo he shouldn't have come.

Rule 4: Take a drink every time Bilbo agrees with Thorin that he shouldn't have come.

Rule 5: Take a drink every time Gandalf turns up apparently out of nowhere to save the Dwarves and Bilbo for almost certain destruction.

That's all I've got so far but I'm sure they'll loads more from the second and third films as well.

[Quatermass]

Very much work in progress but I think I might have the beginnings of "The Hobbit Movie Drinking Game"

Rule 1: Take a drink every time somebody falls off a cliff or otherwise drops from a great height.

Rule 2: Take another drink if they survive unscathed.

Rule 3: Take a drink every time Thorin tells Bilbo he shouldn't have come.

Rule 4: Take a drink every time Bilbo agrees with Thorin that he shouldn't have come.

Rule 5: Take a drink every time Gandalf turns up apparently out of nowhere to save the Dwarves and Bilbo for almost certain destruction.

That's all I've got so far but I'm sure they'll loads more from the second and third films as well.

Sounds like a surefire way to die from alcohol poisoning...

You should post it on TV Tropes. Seriously, they do that sort of thing.

Indeed, they have one for The Lord of the Rings. To whit:

Drinking game for the Peter Jackson version of The Lord of the Rings. Beware of extended film marathons!

•Take a drink when Frodo says 'Sam'.
•Take a drink when Sam says 'Mr Frodo'.
•Take a drink whenever anybody mentions the One Ring.
(If you have a death wish, take a drink every time there's a close-up of the ring.)
•Take a drink whenever you see somebody's filthy, chewed finger nails (unless they're yours).
•Take a drink whenever a bad guy dies (good god).
•Take a drink whenever Gollum says 'my precious'.
•Take a drink every time somebody pulls out a sword.
•Take a drink every time you talk along with the dialogue.
•Take a drink any time Gollum hacks 'Gollum! Gollum!'
•Every time Elrond appears on screen say: 'Miiiiiiissster Baggins'.
•Take a drink every time Legolas says something vague and portentous.
(Take a drink every time Legolas makes a Captain Obvious remark.)
•Take a drink each time Legolas' eyes change colors.
•Take a (small) sip every time Frodo's stressed-out, ring-possessed face looks like... something else. [These last two words are linked to a TV Tropes page called 'The Immodest Orgasm']
•If you feel like living dangerously, take a drink whenever a character says a line that was at worst unremarkable when the films came out, but has become Narm due to Memetic Mutation. WARNING: TV Tropes cannot be held responsible for any alcohol poisoning anyone got if they took this challenge. You have been warned

BTW, in case you don't know, Narm is an overly hammy performance in an otherwise serious moment of fiction. That's what I get the impression, anyway.

[SimonAtford]

Hi Quatermass;

I love TV Tropes even though I don't always know what they are on about Unlike sites such as IMDB and Cracked it never descends into name calling and general rudeness.

I've often wondered whether anyone actually plays any of the various drinking games attached to films and TV dramas. If I tried the LotR one you posted above I'd be bee unconscious the film was half over. Imagine doing it with the special edition of Return of the King To me they are more like a way of affectionately sending something up.

[Quatermass]

I've often wondered whether anyone actually plays any of the various drinking games attached to films and TV dramas. If I tried the LotR one you posted above I'd be bee unconscious the film was half over. Imagine doing it with the special edition of Return of the King To me they are more like a way of affectionately sending something up.

Yeah. Or maybe you can pick and choose the drinking rules.

There's even one for Doctor Who.

Here are the general rules. There are custom rules for each Doctor...

General:

•Take a shot every time somebody runs.
•A shot for whenever he uses the psychic paper or sonic screwdriver.
◦Two shots if the sonic screwdriver is used to do something that's realistically impossible to do with sound waves.
•Take a shot every time someone dies. Say goodbye to brain cells.
◦Take a shot each time someone says "what are you doing here?" or "I'm the Doctor."
•Take a shot everytime you see an alien. ...not counting the Doctor.
•Take a shot when the TARDIS materializes/dematerializes.
◦In the wrong place.
•Take a drink any time something is "impossible" or "can't be", etc.
◦Take two drinks for every one of these during the episode Midnight.
■If watching Midnight after midnight, take four.
•Take a shot every time somebody makes a Badass Boast.
•Take a shot when a Dalek appears.
◦Alternatively, take a shot anytime you hear the word "EXTERMINATE!"
•Take a drink any time you hear Arc Words.
•Finish your drink anytime the Doctor picks up a gun.
•When watching a Gallifrey-based story, drink every time someone says the name "Rassilon."
•Take a shot whenever anyone says "I'll explain later."
•Take a shot every time someone lampshades the Tardis being bigger on the inside than the outside.
•Take a shot when somebody shouts "Doctor!"
•Take a drink any time there is a Title Drop.
◦Take two if they say (or imply or subvert) the question "Doctor Who?"
◦Make sure you have your designated driver nearby when doing this to Asylum of the Daleks.
•Take a shot for each reference to the work of a famous author or artist in an episode where they appear on the show.

Okay, off-topic stuff over.

[SimonAtford]

Okay, off-topic stuff over.

Okey dokey. I thought the songs were very well done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... 78TmJJ4gZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QibzE9I6pU

[meerkat]

Off to see it AGAIN tomorrow!
Loved it! Richard A is stupendously yummy as Thorin Oakenshield? Cor! Pause for a lie down and a cooling drink! That's better!
Thought it was a clever ending too! The "oh-oh" from the audience watching the film with us was a hint that there are dedicated Hobbiters out there ready to be critical and as there was applause at the end I gathered a full cinema was more than happy!

Best bits: the smouldering look as Thorin goes to battle the Orc pratt on the white Warg.
the outfit Thorin was wearing in the forst shots of the dwarfs
Radaghasat leading the wargs to where the Party were trying to run to..

oooh, and tons more things.

[Penfold]

I'm still in two minds about the rabbits, to be honest. I wonder if Peter Jackson might have been better off using wolves on the basis that real world wolves are rather noble animals (in my opinion) and would have been a great contrast against the evil wargs. That said, I expect that there is some lore that says Middle Earth wolves are nasty, evil beasties.

[Catch-up]

It's been so long since I've read the book that I barely remember what's in it. I think it worked out best that way. I just sat back and enjoyed what the movie had to offer. Really loved it and looking forward to the next. Meerkat, have to agree with you, the guy playing Thorin was handsome!

[SimonAtford]

I'm still in two minds about the rabbits, to be honest. I wonder if Peter Jackson might have been better off using wolves on the basis that real world wolves are rather noble animals (in my opinion) and would have been a great contrast against the evil wargs. That said, I expect that there is some lore that says Middle Earth wolves are nasty, evil beasties.

I liked the rabbits versus wargs bit. The contrast so utterly preposterous that you knew Radaghast was going to pull it off.

[Quatermass]

For someone who is basically a hippy wizard who is more than a bit on the absent-minded side, I'd say that giant rabbits are actually a wonderful choice as Radagast's steeds. Plus, it's so damned funny and awesome at the same time!

Is it me, or is Sylvester McCoy really good at gurning?

[kizkiz]

•Take a drink whenever a bad guy dies (good god).

The battle of helms deep could get messy
"I need another thousand shots asap!"

[SimonAtford]

I'm still in two minds about the rabbits, to be honest. I wonder if Peter Jackson might have been better off using wolves on the basis that real world wolves are rather noble animals (in my opinion) and would have been a great contrast against the evil wargs. That said, I expect that there is some lore that says Middle Earth wolves are nasty, evil beasties.

I liked the rabbits versus wargs bit. The contrast so utterly preposterous that you knew Radaghast was going to pull it off.

For someone who is basically a hippy wizard who is more than a bit on the absent-minded side, I'd say that giant rabbits are actually a wonderful choice as Radagast's steeds. Plus, it's so damned funny and awesome at the same time!

Is it me, or is Sylvester McCoy really good at gurning?

Okay so I'm in the process of re-reading the book and Tolkien seems to use wolf and warg as an interchangeable term. All of the animals in the The Hobbit, whether good, evil or undecided, seem to be intelligent and possess their own society. Wargs could be said said to be a greater breed of wolf in the same way that orcs are greater breed of goblin.

Don't know about Sylvester's McCoy's gurning. Don't recall him doing that much as the 7th Doctor.

[Who's Wee Dug]

He was still practicing then.