raisindot wrote:None of these characteristics are at all characteristics of Pterry's elves. They are not alcoholics. They are not cynical (if they were, would they be so easily transfixed by music and theater? Only the Queen is cynical, and it's more than she uses cynicism as a weapon. If everyone obeyed her, she wouldn't be cynical at all). The elves are essentially stupid, or at least incapable of learning anything on their own; they can only absorb knowledge from the people they are conquering. They also aren't interested in joining factions and aren't particularly interested in what goes on in a particular city; all they're interested in is taking over.
Again, not one shred of evidence that Pepe is anything other than a very talented human who is the David Bowie of the DW--someone who is a poser, a chameleon who takes on whatever identify he feels will further his interests.
Terry himself told us that there was a touch of Elf in Buddy's heritage and in his alternative life in Quirm (there's a boy works down the fish shop swears he's Elvis(h)? ). And he also has a touch of Celtic hiraeth, mourning for his harp and generally moping around (playing sad songs instead of hitting the bottle) whilst he's unfulfilled and self-piteously searching for recognition for 'his' music. What Terry's Elves have a propensity for is to get what they want through 'glamour' - so yes they can innovate enough to clad themselves in shininess, to hide their true nature and appearance by feeding vampire-like off their victims imaginations and yes, behaving sadistically breaking people's limbs and spilling blood purely for their own cynical amusement. Even Nazis appreciated the subtler artistic moments of the Ring Cycle didn't they? Granted books didn't get so much respect but the Corleones of this world can still be moved by Madame Butterfly whilst planning assassination in nasty ways. Elves are the motif for the glamour of evil aren't they?
They can 'learn' to find new ways of doing all that and so why wouldn't their 'children' that survive them thrive in such vapid and highly image-conscious industries as the minstrel and fashion design businesses? All smoke and mirrors and very little substance that only puts a minuscule veneer of pixie dust over not very important contributions to human culture? All spin and no effort essentially? Pepe spins and leaps and dazzles his way around the Hippo to lead the chants for Trev and away from Nutt. Buddy flings his hair about and twangs his way languidly into his fans libidos with little or no effort. They both draw on the wild free magic in the Disc's make up and it's this that adds the bones to the ethereal nuances of their otherwise empty fatuous little talents for making reinforced/bouncy pants and pretty ditties?
Elves may not have imaginations but they sure like other people's and so this is all about taste and nuance and what you really need to get by Nobody's saying Pepe is actually an Elf - just that he's got some of their characteristics and that's what makes him a moody little diva who likes to get drunk. Is that Sam Vimes? He doesn't like to get drunk from what I remember? And that's why he's not like an Elf because he wants to be real
Buddy and Pepe are dreamers essentially - Buddy makes them into music and Pepe sells them as clothes that are more about style than function. Neither of them deal in reality as such, just a perception of it.