wildvet wrote:"Terry is so fond of parodying German scholarship"
I didn't even know there was such a thing as German scholarship. Sounds prejudice and cheap. Isn't that exactly what TP is trying so hard to preach not to be? Mind you, I'm not German.
swreader wrote:I'm not at all sure that Nutt's own transformation works partially because I think there is no real explanation of why he is so convinced that he is "worthless"[snip]
But Terry never explains why he has these feelings--which are only cured through his psychoanalysis.
=Tamar wrote:There is a species that Terry wrote who are also portrayed as having no chance at being non-evil: the elves. In UA, I believe he made one of them, if not un-evil, at least less evil: Pepe. I believe that Pepe is intended to be another of the transformed characters in UA. In Moving Pictures, there is a comment that there are elves working in Holy Wood. In Lords and Ladies, Granny Weatherwax explains that there are elf-human cross-breeds that are vain and silly but not as evil as the full-blooded elves. I believe that Pepe is a part-elf; like Tolkien's elves, he creates magical armor. Like Discworld elves, he can look graceful and elegant in anything he chooses to wear. As a part-human, he can live and work with other species, unlike the elves who don't care to get along with anyone. He is a sort of Willikins type, except that he didn't choose to go into service.
swreader wrote:There are a number of jokes about "German scholarship" -- mainly directed at the idea that everything they do is done to the last gasp. There is a story which I suspect Terry knows about the American, the Brit, the Frenchman, and the German who are given grants to write something about the elephant. The American (so the joke goes) comes back in 6 weeks with a paperback "Raising Elephants for Fun and Profit". The Brit comes back in 6 months with a book (beautifully bound and illustrated) called "Tracking the Wiley Elephant", the Frenchman comes back in a year with a brown paper covered volume called "Love among the Elephants." And six years later the German staggers in with a 12 volume work called "A Short Introduction to the Elephant."
raisindot wrote:=Tamar wrote:There is a species that Terry wrote who are also portrayed as having no chance at being non-evil: the elves. (snip) Pepe
Alas, Tamar, I think this is another one of your literary theories that while interesting doesn't hold up under the evidence.
raisindot wrote:There's no evidence whatsoever that Pepe is an elf. Elves don't 'make' anything; they STEAL what already exists.
raisindot wrote:There's no 'magical armor' in UA; just very strong armor reflecting new advanced manufacturing methods.
raisindot wrote:Jason Ogg can make 'magical shoes' for ants, unicorns, or Binky.
raisindot wrote:The 'cubes' and 'devices' the dwarves find underground are metallic objects with magical properties.
raisindot wrote:Mightily Oats 'created' a magical axe that mortally wounded a vampire.
raisindot wrote:Sam Vimes' cry of despair in the caverns of Koom Valley literally 'shook mountains.'
raisindot wrote:Humans created golems, being of magical stone, some of whom ultimately evolved to became sentient beings on their own.
raisindot wrote:And lots of DW characters look great and graceful in anything they choose to wear; Sally, for one, Carrot for another,
Well, that is essentially my point: that Pepe, as a part-elf, has inherited some human characteristics yet retains some elven ones as well, specifically a certain degree of viciousness along with the style sense and a form of magic that owes something to Tolkien's elves. Although it apparently suited Sir Terry to make fashion into a kind of dream of freedom for species that hadn't previously had that opportunity (trolls, dwarfs), at its worst fashion is literally a glamor that gives the fashionistas power over any human that falls for it and makes them feel bad about themselves for not looking like models. It's practically elvish that way.raisindot wrote: Pterry's elves have certain characteristics that don't change: They're stupid, they never LEARN, they 'glamor' people to gain power over them and make them feel useless, and they attempt to enslave ALL humans. Pepe has absolutely none of the characteristics of Pterry's elves at all.
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