Horace the Cheese

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Horace the Cheese

Postby SWkelda » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:31 pm

In what book does Horace first appear? I just re-read A HAT FULL OF SKY and there is a cheese in it that Tiffany, controlled by the Hiver creates. Is that Horace? Just trying get my facts straight.
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Tonyblack » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:50 pm

Welcome to the site, SWkelda! :D

I'm fairly certain that Horace makes his debute in A Hat Full of Sky after Tiffany's failed attempt to make a Lance Blue. He's in the Tiffany books after that as well. :)

Just to add - Tiffany, under the control of the Hiver tries to make a cheese, but ultimately that doesn't work once the magic wears off. That cheese isn't Horace though.
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Tonyblack » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:58 pm

:oops: I'm now having second thoughts about which book Horace first appears in. Maybe it's Wintersmith and not Hat Full of Sky he's first in. :?
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Toothy » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:23 pm

I'm pretty sure it's Wintersmith, Tony.
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Who's Wee Dug » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:54 pm

Just last week I listened to Wintersmith again and Horace was defininitely mentioned in it. :mrgreen:
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby swreader » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:12 pm

Tiffany, you are right. On p. 90 of the British edition is the first mention of Horace. Tiffany talks earlier about Miss Treason wanting the cheeses she makes coated black, but Horace has been a problem, and a champion Lancre Blue with strange qualities from the beginning.

I suppose the real question is why Terry created Horace in the first place? I guess that he makes a perfect pet for Daft Wullie (one of the more prominent of the Feegles). I think he's one of the comic elements that Terry puts in this book, though I find him more odd than funny. :roll:
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Tonyblack » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:30 pm

It's my belief that Terry included Horace in the book (and it is indeed Wintersmith) for the sole purpose of a very groan-worthy joke on page 366 of the British copy.

'Why am I sitting next to a blue cheese with a bit of tartan wrapped around it?
'Ah, that'd be Horace,' said Rob Anybody. 'He's Daft Wullie's pal. He's no' being' a nuisance, is he?'
'No. But he's trying to sing!'
'Aye, all blue cheeses hum a bit.'


I groaned out loud when I read that, but chatting to swreader about it, she hadn't 'got' the joke as it seems to 'hum' is a Britishism.

For those of you who also didn't get it. In Britain we say that something very smelly is humming. :lol:
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Who's Wee Dug » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:12 pm

That made me chuckle when I heard it, as I had forgotten that bit in the book. :lol: I would love to see the Feegles in another book. :mrgreen:
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby =Tamar » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:54 pm

Who's Wee Dug wrote:I would love to see the Feegles in another book.

There's _a_ Feegle in Snuff, but not a group of them.
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby MongoGutman » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:43 am

I'm re-reading Carpe Jugulum and I had completely forgotten the Nac Mac Feegles were in it, thought they were solely a Tiffany element
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Who's Wee Dug » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:40 am

MongoGutman wrote:I'm re-reading Carpe Jugulum and I had completely forgotten the Nac Mac Feegles were in it, thought they were solely a Tiffany element

They are slighty different bunch in that one, I think it was the 1st time the Feegles were mentioned was in Carpe Jugulum.
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Tonyblack » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:09 am

Who's Wee Dug wrote:
MongoGutman wrote:I'm re-reading Carpe Jugulum and I had completely forgotten the Nac Mac Feegles were in it, thought they were solely a Tiffany element

They are slighty different bunch in that one, I think it was the 1st time the Feegles were mentioned was in Carpe Jugulum.

Much more difficult to understand too! :lol:
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby MongoGutman » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:55 am

Tonyblack wrote:
Who's Wee Dug wrote:
MongoGutman wrote:I'm re-reading Carpe Jugulum and I had completely forgotten the Nac Mac Feegles were in it, thought they were solely a Tiffany element

They are slighty different bunch in that one, I think it was the 1st time the Feegles were mentioned was in Carpe Jugulum.

Much more difficult to understand too! :lol:


Yeah, I've given up trying to work out what they're supposed to be saying.
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Tonyblack » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:04 pm

I found it helped if you read out loud.
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Re: Horace the Cheese

Postby Who's Wee Dug » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:08 pm

AND NOW!! Horace the Cheese may have a pal as in Horace the Haggis. :lol:
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