The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

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The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby poohcarrot » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:11 pm

This is NOT the official Long Earth discussion! 8-)
That can be found at the link below;
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4998

(And before anyone runs off to Jason complaining about yet another one of my posts, Jason himself, gave me permission to start this thread. 8-) )

So let's start with some vibes! :dance:
When Long Earth is made into an action blockbuster starring Johnny Depp as Lobsang, this song will run with the closing credits. :dance:



We don't live in the same world
We don't live in the same world
I caught you looking in my world
As if you wanna be my girl

I think we're dreaming the same dream
I think we're dreaming the same dream
I'll let you be in my dream
If you show me your dream
Tell me what it means

I don't want to spend the rest of my days
Running around, chasing your shadow
So please don't let this chance slip away
If you waste it this time
I won't be here tomorrow

If we get it together
It could last forever
If you got the time to try it
You know that it could be a riot

We don't live in the same world
We don't live in the same world
But I could step into your world
If you step into my world

I don't want to spend the rest of my days
Running around, chasing your shadow
So please don't let this chance slip away
If you waste it this time
I won't be here tomorrow

We don't live in the same world
Take a step into my world
"Disliking Carrot would be like kicking a puppy."
"You kicked a puppy," Lobsang said accusingly.
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby poohcarrot » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:50 pm

Who'd like to be a guinea pig?

I think what I've found is very interesting, and the chances of it being coincidental are exactly one million to one, but I'd like an objective view before I go public. :dance:
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby pip » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:53 pm

My role in life is as an honorary guinea pig :lol:
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby poohcarrot » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:06 pm

I'll start pm-ing you either later today or tomorrow. :dance:
(One bit is absolutely stunning. 8-) )

There are 6 sections;

Intro
Chapter 41 pt 1
Chapter 41 pt 2
Brian Cowley
Sally
Monica Jansson
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Postby pip » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:07 pm

No worries . I'm already inrigued :lol:
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby Jan Van Quirm » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:59 pm

I'm still only halfway through but as it's you :?
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby poohcarrot » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:27 pm

Very kind of you Jano, but as you haven't finished it, you wouldn't understand. Plus, it'd ruin the ending. 8-)

Anyhoos, Pip's casting his beady eye over it, even as we speak. :dance:
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby pip » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:47 am

My conclusion is that Pooh is nuts but in an interestingly twisted way.
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby poohcarrot » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:27 am

Well let's get this Code/theory jobbie underway, shall we?

MASSIVE SPOILERS!

PART 1 - INTRODUCTION

When I first read Long Earth, two things struck me;
- Chapter 41 was just plain silly. :?
- The ending with the nuclear device was totally unnecessary. :?

On subsequent reads I realised something. :o

The Humanity First movement is quite clearly a bunch of dangerous nutters who think nothing about damaging the US to further their political aims. :o
They reminded me of the Tea Party, who are also quite clearly a bunch of dangerous nutters who think nothing about damaging the US to further their political aims. :o
(Remember how the US lost its triple A credit rating due to Tea Party intransigence during the Debt Ceiling debacle? :twisted: )

(Feel free to comment at any time. See if you can guess where this is all leading. :dance: )
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby poohcarrot » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:14 am

Part 2 - Chapter 41 part 1 (up to the word evolution on page 280)

Great chunks of Brian Cowley's speech are pure Tea Party rhetoric. :o

Stepping? Gay marriage? Obamacare?
"We plain folk, who don't have the education to know any better, have words for practices like that. Words like un-natural. Words like abomination. Words like unholy." :o

Cowley goes onto talk about how politicians inside the Beltway are out of touch with the common man.
"But I'm not inside the Beltway. I'm just an ordinary Joe, like you, like you."
- straight out of the Tea Party playbook. :o

For good measure he also invokes God three times.
"...like God made them."
"...at least it's God's own moon."
"...God's good earth."
- pure Tea Party. :o

And all the time, the audience are a-whooping and a-hollering just like all good T-Baggers do. :dance:

And just like the Tea Party, the Humanity First movement has "well-heeled backers." :o
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Postby poohcarrot » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:23 am

Part 3 - Chapter 41 part 2 (from the word evolution to the end of chapter)

Then all of a sudden, completely out of the blue, Cowley goes off on his evolution argument. He talks about neandethal man being around for hundreds of thousands of years. Like, WTF? :?

As most T-Baggers believe Adam and Eve rode around on dinosaurs a mere 6,000 years ago, it clearly isn't the Tea Party, afterall, that's being parodied. :naughty:

However, I simply don't buy the evolution argument. Although I'm more than happy to believe people can travel to parallel worlds with the aid of a humble tatty, I cannot get my head round that all these "plain, uneducated, God-fearing folk" are all pro-evolution. :naughty:

In Darwin's Watch, it states the folowing;

"Allegedly, 50% of Americans believe that the Earth was created less than 10,000 years ago, which if true says something rather sad about the most expensive education system in the world." :o

Therefore the second part of Cowley's speech must be pure irony, designed to protect the authors from any backlash.
If Cowley had gone off on world-is-only-6,000-years-old rant like expected, they'd be burning Long Earth in the Bible Belt even as you read this. 8-)

But can I provide any evidence to back up my theory that the book is a massive attack on Tea Party/creationist loonies? :think:
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby poohcarrot » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:24 pm

Part 4 - Brian Cowley (a)

Brian Cowley is the leader of the Humanity First movememnt.

Now, TP has a tendency to name characters for a reason eg; Goodmountain = Guttenberg (The Truth) 8-)

Was Brian Cowley named for a reason? :think:

So off I went a-googling to see if I could find a link between Brian Cowley and the Tea Party. :dance:

(Did you know there's an Irish MEP called Brian Cowley? Pip assures me he's barking, but he's not the link. :lol: )

And would you Adam and Eve it? I found a connection! :o

(I'll continue this tomorrow, so that gives you all time to try and find the link. 8-) )
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby poohcarrot » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:48 am

Part 5 - Brian Cowley (b)

Maybe Brian Cowley was named after the village of Cowley and Cowley Manor in the Cotswolds? :think:

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http://www.cowleymanor.com/british-summ ... 's-picnic/

It is reported that Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland while staying in Cowley.
In Alice in Wonderland, chapter 7 is tittled, "A Mad Tea-Party." :o
Well how appropriate!
So proof that the authors were writing about the Tea Party and the Tea Party is mad, Mad, MAD!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Um.. er...or maybe not. :(
Even by my standards, that evidence is a tad tenuous, a touch flimsy, to put it mildly. :roll:

However, perhaps I should keep looking. To work with, I've now got a chapter number (seven) to go on, and in the Mad Tea-Party chapter in Alice, the characters keep changing places. Could that be a clue? :think:

So let's follow the white rabbit and see where it leads. :dance:

If I look at the corresponding chapter 7 of Long Earth, what are the chances of it somehow being connected to Alice in Wonderland? 8-)

Oh! Chapter 7 in Long Earth is less than two pages long! It's about Sally leaving Datum Earth. :roll:

Wait a second..........WOW!! :o :o :o
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby poohcarrot » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:05 pm

Part 6 - Sally

The way Sally steps isn't the usual step-by-step plod. She steps using a unique method.

Both Joshua and Lobsang compare the way Sally steps to "Alice in Wonderland". :o

Bottom page 244 - top of page 255
"And a new way of travelling," Joshua said , feeling faintly stunned at this latest conceptual leap. "A way to cut out the step by step plod." In fact, he thought, thinking of Sally, thinking of "stuttering," she had mentioned, another way.
..."Like the rabbit hole to Wonderland," Joshua said.

Top of page 252
Lobsang murmered, "I suspect wormholes would be a better metaphor. Or rabbit holes, if you must, Joshua."

So in chapter 7 of Long Earth, Sally leaves Datum Earth by going down a "rabbit hole to Wonderland!" :o

On Discworld, when people write anything, it tends to be in Olde English. The "i" is often replaced with a "y", so the word "this" would become "thys." 8-)

In the chapter 7 of Alice, A Mad Tea-Party, the characters keep on changing places. 8-)

Chapter 7 of Long Earth is all about Sally, as she's the only character in it, let's see what happens if the letters of Sally's name change places;

SALLY
YSALL
LYSAL
LLYSA
ALLYS BINGO! :o

In Discworld speak this would be pronounced as "Alice." :o

So chapter 7 of Long Earth is all about Sally leaving Datum Earth using her unique stepping ability.

Or it could be described as Allys (Alice) going down a "rabbit hole to Wonderland." :o :o :o

Mere coincidence? Or possibly a deliberate "code?" :think:

(Obviously if Sally's name had been "Celia" it would have worked better, but it's a stupid name for a heroine, and people who are not Discworld fans would have been able to get it.) :lol:
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Re: The Long Earth "Code" - SPOILERS!

Postby Jan Van Quirm » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:45 pm

Finished it. See my post HERE :P

Care to factor that one into the Code smartypants? :dance:
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