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Postby =Tamar » Tue May 29, 2012 9:54 pm

poohcarrot wrote:Of course TP may not have got the Lady Hermione from Harry Potter, but maybe from;

Hermione (mythology), only daughter of Menelaus and Helen in Greek mythology and original bearer of the name
HMS Hermione, seven ships of the Royal Navy
French frigate Hermione (1779), a French frigate
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I believe that in a discussion elsewhere, the famous actress Hermione Gingold was mentioned as a possible source of the name.
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Re: Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents Discussion Grou

Postby =Tamar » Wed May 30, 2012 12:39 am

poohcarrot wrote:I'll give you Lady Hermione, Harry King and Ronald Carney.
So it does seem more than coincidental that all three names are in the book. ...
PS Who are the other Hermiones, Harrys and Rons in The Truth? :?


Miss Hermione King, who is engaged to be married.
Mr. Harry, who lost a watch and put an ad in the paper, and then found it in his coat pocket.
Coffin Henry, whose name would be adapted to Harry if anyone wanted to be that friendly. (He's kind of a stealth Harry.)
Foul Ole Ron. I had at one time believed there was a Ron working in the livery stable, but that turned out to be a mistake by William, who smelled Gaspode and thought it was Foul Ole Ron.
Incidentally, the name William is also repeated - Willie Hobson.
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Re: Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents Discussion Grou

Postby poohcarrot » Wed May 30, 2012 10:48 am

OK = :dance:

You've convinced me! :clap: :clap:
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Postby =Tamar » Thu May 31, 2012 1:39 am

Back on topic, I believe one of the ratcatchers in Bad Blintz is named Ron.
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Re: Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents Discussion Grou

Postby Florian » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:30 pm

I found this crazy publication about Brain-to-Brain interface in a device coupling two rat brains to solve problems... this reminded me so much of the rat king, I needed to log into this forum and to post it...
Simply crazy.
http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130228/ ... 01319.html
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Re: Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents Discussion Grou

Postby Tonyblack » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:08 pm

Hi Florian and welcome! :)

Interesting article and I see what you mean. It's the rats I feel sorry for though.

In case anyone wondered what a real Rat King looks like, there's a picture of one on this Wiki.
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Re: Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents Discussion Grou

Postby Natalya » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:03 pm

I appreciate deeply this book... Thank you, Sir Terry! This book has being first after long time when...
In short: :) : I've read it in bus and missed my station!... In fact, my surroundings disappeared and I heard voice of Old Rat Leader (when he was in rat-pit, alone with his mind against dog... )... Incredible!
In some parts it very funny story. I 've even read some text to my husband aloud (I was translating into Russian at the same time).
But I realy cried when Darktan was near his death... and when Maurice brought out Dangerouse Beans from fire, in spite of his own temporary 'stupidness'....
But final was ... as final of Sir Terry's book.
Real ( as a truth! ) and kind! :dance:
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Postby Penfold » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:55 am

Good to see you again Natalya. :D I thought Maurice was a great book as well..
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Postby Natalya » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:29 am

Penfold, me too :dance:
I wonder either I'm still a child, or a 'Maurice' is not such a children's book :D
Seriously:
'Deeply sense&feelings '- book, I mean...
Little rats who have suddenly got a human minds.
They like a child who's suddenly become adult very fast ... Sometimes it is so painful for soul...
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Postby Penfold » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:43 am

I'm nearly fifty years old and still enjoy his books aimed at 'young adults'. I think it is because he doesn't patronize young people and treats them as being intelligent enough to handle the subject matters he writes about ("I Shall Wear Midnight", for example, is supposed to be categorized as a 'children's book' but it contains some seriously adult themes right from the beginning). :D
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Postby Tonyblack » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:55 am

And I'm more than 50 and I love the book. :)

Maurice is almost an early draft of Moist von Lipwig. He enjoys accumulating wealth almost as a way of showing how clever he is. He's convinced himself that he's doing it to help the rats and therefore he's being clever and caring. But, at least at the start, it's more of a game to him.
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Postby Natalya » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:47 pm

Tonyblack wrote:He's convinced himself that he's doing it to help the rats and therefore he's being clever and caring. But, at least at the start, it's more of a game to him.

Yes... but in the end he gave own life to Dangerous Beans without doubt...Because absolutely most of us have got a heart! Even the Cleverest of Cats :)
I've never read about Moist von Lipwig (only watched film 'Going Postal' ). It is in my future plans! :)
I read in English so slow... so far! :?

Penfold, honestly, sometimes I was slightly wondered when I read 'I shall wear midnight' or 'WinterSmith', too. 'Is THIS for children??? Realy, English children is older than the same age children in Russia ?!'
(But seriously I'm sure that 30...50...100 years ago children had were becoming older faster than today, in the whole world ).
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Re: Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents Discussion Grou

Postby Ghost » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:17 pm

Natalya wrote:Penfold, honestly, sometimes I was slightly wondered when I read 'I shall wear midnight' or 'WinterSmith', too. 'Is THIS for children??? Realy, English children is older than the same age children in Russia ?!'
(But seriously I'm sure that 30...50...100 years ago children had were becoming older faster than today, in the whole world ).

perhaps not for younger children but for older children 13 plus unlike Maurice and His Educated Rodents which could be for 11 years plus
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Postby Tonyblack » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:36 pm

Yes Natalya, he does show that he really cares about the rats to the point of being prepared to die for them - but the book is partly about his journey to come to realise this. :)
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Postby Natalya » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:43 am

Yes, you are quite right! :)
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