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Postby Tonyblack » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:56 am

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Postby poohcarrot » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:59 pm

How can you take no notice if you have to read it first? :?
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Postby pip » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:34 pm

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Postby =Tamar » Fri May 25, 2012 6:03 am

Pearwood wrote:As for the significance of Dangerous Beans' name I thought it was nothing more than a flatulence joke. :?


I thought it might be a glancing comment on a Harry Potter joke: the Bertie Botts' Beans included some "dangerous" flavors.
When the commercial product first came out in the US, all the unsavory flavors were white. Later versions had a color code for the various flavors. (Similarly, in The Truth, there are multiple characters with names that are also used in Harry Potter books. I think I counted three Hermiones, for instance, and several each of characters named Harry and Ron.)
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Postby poohcarrot » Fri May 25, 2012 1:38 pm

=Tamar wrote: Similarly, in The Truth, there are multiple characters with names that are also used in Harry Potter books. I think I counted three Hermiones, for instance, and several each of characters named Harry and Ron.)


Hi = :dance:

Who are the three Hermiones in The Truth?
And who are the several characters named Harry and Ron?
(I assume you're not referring to Foul Ole Ron who first appeared in Soul Music, 3 years before HP and the Philosopher's Stone was released) :dance:
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Postby pip » Fri May 25, 2012 2:47 pm

I assume Harry and Hermione is Harry King and his Daughter but can't think of any more Hermiones. Strangely HArry is one of the most popular names in the English Speaking world so does tend to pop up from time to time without having any connection to JK Rowling shockingly enough .
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Postby Tonyblack » Fri May 25, 2012 2:50 pm

There are a load of Rons and variations of the name such as Hrun in the books - especially in the early ones. I think Terry considers it a funny name. :lol:
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Re: Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents Discussion Grou

Postby =Tamar » Sat May 26, 2012 3:24 am

One of the Hermiones is a multiple personality of a beggar. Terry has said that the Rons in his books are a quiet joke about Josh Kirby, whose official legal name was Ron. I think one of them was a livery stable man, and I do count Foul Ole Ron - they don't have to be new characters to count. I would have ignored the Harrys except for the combination of multiple Harrys, Rons, and Hermiones in the same book. Usually there's only one Ron. Terry is very clever about making certain possible connections very subtle; nothing is provable, but the hint is there. He has said on occasion that he will use a bit of folklore if he can find three separate examples of it. I believe that is partly to make it harder to claim anything is an ironclad allusion to one specific historical bit.
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Re: Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents Discussion Grou

Postby poohcarrot » Sat May 26, 2012 7:22 am

OK = :dance: :dance:

I'll give you Lady Hermione, Harry King and Ronald Carney.
So it does seem more than coincidental that all three names are in the book. :clap: :clap: :clap:

However, The Truth was published in 2000, before the first Harry Potter film was released in 2001.
Only the first four HP books had been published by 2000 and HP wasn't the worldwide hit it went on to become later.

If The Truth had been published in 2005 along with this "swipe" by TP at J K Rowling, I'd be more likely to believe it was intentional. 8-)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4732385.stm

PS Who are the other Hermiones, Harrys and Rons in The Truth? :?
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Sat May 26, 2012 12:54 pm

And then there's Ron(nie) Soak of course... :whistle:

But that was after The Truth and the last cover Josh Kirby did for Terry :cry:
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Postby Sjoerd3000 » Sat May 26, 2012 1:05 pm

And Ronald Saveloy in Interesting Times ;) (before the Truth :P )
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Postby raptornx01 » Sat May 26, 2012 1:17 pm

it, HP, was still somewhat popular at that point (when truth was being written). plus the fact both are british authors, putting Terry closer to ground zero, as it were.
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Re: Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents Discussion Grou

Postby poohcarrot » Sat May 26, 2012 1:53 pm

Of course TP may not have got the Lady Hermione from Harry Potter, but maybe from;


Hermione (given name), a female given name
Hermione (mythology), only daughter of Menelaus and Helen in Greek mythology and original bearer of the name
HMS Hermione, seven ships of the Royal Navy
French frigate Hermione (1779), a French frigate that carried La Fayette to join the American fight for independence in 1780
USS Hawk (IX-14), formerly called Hermione
121 Hermione, an asteroid
Cadmus et Hermione, an opera by Jean-Baptiste Lully
Ermioni, a resort town in Greece originally called Hermione
HERmione, a novel
Hermiones, The Irminones, a group of early Germanic tribes
Hermione (Tallulah, Louisiana), a Greek Revival building built in 1855 in Tallulah, Louisiana
Hotspot Ecosystem Research and Man's Impact On European Seas (HERMIONE), an EU-funded deep-sea research project
Letter to Hermione, a song from the album Space Oddity by David Bowie
Sony Ericsson P990, a mobile phone codenamed Hermione
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Postby raptornx01 » Sat May 26, 2012 11:14 pm

All named after Harry Potter ofcourse :lol:
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