LilMaibe wrote:Of course scatological humour has been used throughout the ages, but, to pick a crass example, would you give it a thumbs up if in the next book there'd be a lot of underage sex depicted as something positive and 'normal'?
After all, Romeo&Juliet were what 13? 14? and the old greeks and romans had sex with adulescent boys.
I am a bit exaggerating here, yes, but thing is you have to see and judge everything in the context of the time it was written and in the context of the text itself. When a joke, if not concept comes out of nowhere there is the sore feeling of it is just there, at mildest, for having a certain joke-per-page count.
YMMV of course.
Well, in I Shall Wear Midnight, there is underage sex - and it was included because it is
normal. Happens all the time. It's a part of life. Bodily functions are a part of life too.
We can't ignore the gross biological weaknesses of the human body. No matter how elevated our thoughts, our bodies are disgusting. They smell and they squirt waste products all over the place and they're teeming with bacteria and parasites. This is the true equality of man - everyone poops, and by extension everyone dies, because these frail meatsacks will wear out long before we're finished using them. This is something Terry Pratchett in particular must now understand with exacting clarity.
That is why I argue that toilet humour is important and legitimate in literature - because in the face of this weakness, what is there to do but laugh? That's why I disagree with your statement that jokes like these are nothing but "cheap laughs". What's cheaper about them than any joke? Why shouldn't we laugh at our own illusions of dignity? Nobody looks dignified when they poop, or throw up, or give birth. It ties in with the goblins, it ties in with the story being set in the countryside, where people live with the more disgusting parts of life everyday. Toilet humour, I believe, has as valid a place in Snuff as any other kind of humour.
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