Ned Coates question

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Ned Coates question

Postby basod » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:52 am

Reading through Night Watch and I am flummoxed to whether Vimes had Ned Coates promoted or demoted to the rank of Lance Corporal.

If promoted, what was his rank before?
And if demoted, then why?
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Re: Ned Coates question

Postby Dotsie » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:03 am

Hi basod

Without fetching the book out, I would say it was a promotion, which means he would have been a constable before.
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Re: Ned Coates question

Postby raptornx01 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:15 pm

It had to have been promoted. though i don't recall there being a change, Vimes was talking about it.
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Re: Ned Coates question

Postby Tonyblack » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:38 pm

The entry for Ned Coates in the Discworld Companion is as follows:

Constable in the Night Watch when Sam Vimes was a new recruit. Promoted to lance-corporal by Sergeant Keel. A freethinker, probably a revolutionary at heart and a better fighter than Keel in every respect except that of unscrupulous cunning. A hero of the Glorious Revolution of 24/25 May (it happened overnight).


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Re: Ned Coates question

Postby Andy M » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:37 pm

I’ve just been re-reading Night Watch - I always wondered who Ned Coates REALLY was?

He just seems to be far too good a street fighter to be an ordinary watchman, he is more like an outside “specialist” brought in for a job by some secret organisation. . .especially the way he is able to be in the right place at the right time by getting into the special mob that Carcer brings out to silence Keel after the revolution is over when he turns out to be on Keel’s side at the end.

But who brought him in and where from and why?
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Re: Ned Coates question

Postby Cool Middle Name » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:08 pm

The end of Night Watch confused me...
I remember that Ned was part of Carcer's group in the heated battle, and that Vimes warned him to go far away, knowing what would happen to him.
And after Sam returned to the future, Ned apparently died.
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Re: Ned Coates question

Postby raptornx01 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:39 pm

ned switched sides mid battle remember? but yeah i felt odd about that too. guess he had to though, since he knew.
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