windscion wrote:Um, not accurate. Andy sliced "farter" Carter for disagreeing with him. Trevor seemed to feel that Carter's vision had been endangered, but there is no indication that Andy's vision is endangered.
Yes, this book sends a different message. But let us not forget that Vimes now has a son, and that Stratford was going to attack that son. Pay careful attention to what Willikens says: that Vimes would have taken him (Stratford) prisoner, rather than kill him, even tho doing so would have torn him apart inside.
Now, consider Vimes options. He can either punish Willikens, or reward him, or let the matter lie.
Consider also that Stinky, and to a lesser extent, I think, Willikens are being guided by The Summoning Dark. Admittedly, I may be reading a bit into the book as it stands to come to that conclusion.
But, to continue defending Vimes. Vimes avoids asking because doing so would put him in the intolerable position of either punishing loyalty or rewarding an 'extralegal execution'. Consider also that he cannot subject Willikens to the law w/o evidence, and there is no evidence unless Willikens confesses. Vimes is a pragmatist: he holds himself to a different standard than others, because he (Vimes) is the embodiment of the Law. Is that hypocrisy? No, because the Law, being rules, cannot evade rules just because they are inconvenient. Hence Vetinari's question: did you give orders? And the answer is no. Meaning he had no advance plans. He was letting justice, the law, take its course. Forgiving an action is different from deliberately encouraging it.
LilMaibe wrote:What's in general a bit disturbing (as mentioned) is how all characters seem to have lost their general personality in favour of one that adjusts to the situation.
Jan Van Quirm wrote:LilMaibe wrote:What's in general a bit disturbing (as mentioned) is how all characters seem to have lost their general personality in favour of one that adjusts to the situation.
Out of context I know - but this is just (real) life. The situation can and does govern the personality time and again.
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