Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (the book and movie)

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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (the book and movie)

Postby Beyond Birthday » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:34 am

So I saw Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, and it's, for the most part, an accurate adaptation of the last half of the last book.

In some ways this isn't a good thing.

First of all, in the sixth book (there will by many, many spoilers by the way) The Sorting Hate hints at how all four houses must come together to fight Lord Voldemort, hinting that most of Slytherin will join Harry and his friends in a big climactic battle.

This doesn't happen in the movie OR the book. This may sound strange at first, but then I remember hearing that J.K. absolutely refused to hire any editors for her last book and good lord does it show in terms of continuity! Instead, every. single. student that's a Slytherin is shown to be unambiguously evil and more than willing to turn Harry over to Voldemort. In a series that's unmistakably about how terrible racism is that's pretty terrible. Look, I know that The Sorting Hat sorts students according to personality and not race or blood or whatever, I can accept that...except when The Sorting Hat specifically said 'All four houses should come together!'. I mean, why even say that when you KNOW that everyone in Slytherin loves Voldemort? Unless, of course, J.K. messed up in a huge way...a huge way that could have been avoided with, say it with me,

EDITORS!

The movie does the exact same thing because it absolutely refuses to seperate itself from the source material, even making it worse by sending everyone in Slytherin to a dungeon...even though in the movie only one person from Slytherin says she wants to turn Harry over to Voldemort...and the rest of Slytherin just kind of shuffles awkwardly...and the guy running the dungeon would love nothing more than to torture people.

You really have to feel for the poor people forced into following material that was in terrible need of a few

EDITORS!

Also, remember how Dumbledore had this huge subplot in the seventh book about how he's kind of a b****** and explains why he's dying? Not in the movie at all except, for some reason, he's still just sort of dying. Not really mad about that, it's just a weird decision. If I were making the movies I'd just have Dumbledore not be dying (since I'd have to remove the explanation for it anyway) and tell Snape to kill him so that Malfoy wouldn't have to: not only does it not hurt the story in any way but we now don't have the audience going "Umm...why is his hand like that? What is he dying of? ...never gonna explain that, then?"

Luckily, the movie did two things much, much, much better than the book. For one thing Voldermort and Harry don't have a terrible, takes-you-right-out-of-the-final-climactic-battle-of-the-series, discussion about whether or not Harry Potter is, in fact, a Gary Stu. The writers for the movie realized that having your main villain sound like a whiny a**hat talking about which Trek Captain is the best (Picard, by the way). For two, Harry's adopted son doesn't have My Little Pony hair (FiM is awesome by the way).

Also, hilariously, Harry's son worries about being in Slytherin, just like in the book! Harry's response should have been "Well son, when J.K. wrote this epilogue years ago the whole 'being in Slytherin is okay' thing would have paid off in some significant way...buuuuut because she didn't hire editors to follow up on continuity I set up in book six and the entire d*** premise of the series then you'd better pray to high heaven you don't end up as an evil, evil Slytherin!"

So the movie was okay, but needed to get rid of some of the stupidity of the book it was based on.
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Postby Beyond Birthday » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:37 am

Oh! and they tried their best to replace that stupid "Ron remembers how to say 'open' in Parseltongue after hearing Harry say it once five years ago" thing, so kudos for realizing how stupid that was.
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Postby Who's Wee Dug » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:08 pm

Never read any of the books, so I can't compare them with the film versions and don't really care, as I enjoy the the films. :)
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Postby Penfold » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:13 pm

I only read one book so I'm in the same boat as Dug when it comes to comparing book to film. However, I pretty much gave up on the films after "Goblet of Fire" but I dare say I will get around to watching the rest of them eventually, when they're shown on telly. :)
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Postby poohcarrot » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:38 pm

I liked all the books and have enjoyed all the films so far. :D
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Postby CrysaniaMajere » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:01 pm

I've read and liked all the books, but about the movies I liked the first three. The others not really that much..
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Postby author3 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:36 pm

I'm going to a late showing of the film tonight with my mates
Hopefully it'll be good :D
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Postby pip » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:08 am

Instead, every. single. student that's a Slytherin is shown to be unambiguously evil and more than willing to turn Harry over to Voldemort.


So what was the whole Malfoy redemption thing then. His mother saved Harry at the end and there love for each other causes them to turn there backs on the fight , also the whole Snape (a Slytherin) thing seems to have gone by you as well as Slughorn leading an army back to the school. Only Parkinson and Crabbe (Goyle in the film) prove beyond redemption and the phrase is said in the office afterwards by Niggelus' portrait that Slytherin played its part. So your statement above is slightly wrong.

Also the why dumbledore is dying thing is shown in the Film through images in the pensieve just like in the book .
So maybe JK isn't the only one needing editors :wink: [/quote]
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Postby Dotsie » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:38 am

I agree with pip :D But I'd also like to add, Kirk :P
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Postby pip » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:50 am

Cheers Dotsie :lol:
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Postby author3 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:09 am

The film was pretty good , beside's the fact that the whole cinema was filled with annoying American teenagers who laughed at everything but the funny things
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Postby pip » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:17 am

Went to an over 18 showing so no annoying kids at all (no offence meant to an under 18s Author ) :D
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Postby Quatermass » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:51 am

I thought that Deathly Hallows was the best of the series, and certainly one of my favourites of all time. The book, I mean. Haven't seen the films past number 2, and don't particularly want to.
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