Jan Van Quirm wrote:NP meer - plenty of time for this
Jan Van Quirm wrote:
In the real Caroc there are 30 cards altogether but Terry's only got around to actually naming a few of them and most can equate (roughly in some cases) to the 22 Roundworld cards so this is what we've come up with - the Discworld name is shown in brackets where appropriate
Later suggestions/options in red until meerkat sanctions 8)
1 ~ The Magician
Mankind surrounded by nature. Endowed with enough power to manage your affairs.
Probably one of the UU Wizards but one who fits the description (Ponder? Ridcully?)
Have you considered Albert? After all, he was supposed to have been the most powerful wizard of all and founder of UU to boot. Does this have to be a male character, coz if not, then I'd also consider Granny Weatherwax.
2 ~ The High Priestess
Sanctuary, law, woman, Mother.
Mrs. Cosmopolite in her position as Muse/Sibyl to Lu-Tze and the History Monks. Could also work Anoia into this too as she's sort of a domestic goddess
Nanny Ogg has many of these qualities.
I agree, although I would also consider Sibyl to have at least the same three as Nanny.
3 ~ The Empress
Evolutionary power of fertilised nature.
Lady Margolotta (on the basis of international political clout)Magrat, since she's pretty darned earth mother fertile. And she's queen.
4 ~ The Emperor (The Ruler)
The Energy in man to give his creations a short reality.
Because of that qualification - Terry The Man (Vetinari is still in here just wait a bit )
Wm. De Worde?
I'd vote for Vetinari.
5 ~ The High Priest
Spiritual Power which conveys principles.
Hughnon Ridcully (HP of Blind Io)? OR Brutha?
Lu-Tze or the Abbot.
6 ~ The Lovers
Physical love. Urge to carry out a task with the advantages you take from it.
Carrot and Angua? LONAs?
Tricky. I don't think Carrot & Angua quite fit - Carrot just isn't romantic. I can only think of minor characters for this: Cohen & Bethany (was that her name? In CoM); Wen & Time; Susan & Jeremy/Lobsang. Overall LONAs fit the description best.
7 ~ The Chariot
Material Power. Dominion over passions. Actions of a human being.
The Luggage on the basis (and basics) of carrying material trappings and in particular laundry action...
I like the luggage for this. If not, then maybe Binky.
8 ~ Justice
Happy or painful consequences.
Lord Vetinari - just right!
Sam Vimes. He is justice personified. Even Vetinari must bow to him when it concerns The Law. They are both servants of the Law and Sam certainly upholds it without fear or favour. However as Patrician Vetinari can make or repeal laws (even if he's also subject to them like when he's removed from office in Jingo). Sam can't do that, so I say he's still 2nd choice.
I'd go for Vimes here.
9 ~ The Hermit
Search of Truth. Search for patience. Prudence.
10 ~ The Wheel of Fortune
Actions in the present affected by the past.
Guild of Gamblers - maybe tie in Fate & the Lady? Moist?
This is Moist all over. He's all about actions in the present being affected by his past. (included on the basis that I loathe Moist so can't be a judge )
I'd go for the Lady, or how about CMOT. Admittedly, it's usually bad fortune in his case, but his actions are affected by the past.
11 ~ Strength (The Importance of Washing the Hands)
Fruits of labour. Ability to tell truth from lies.
Cohen or Hrun cleaning up... from a Health & Efficiency slant - strength through hygiene Carrot is he wasn't being used elsewhere. Or Detritus, since he strongly committed to cleaning the city of troll drugs. They don't have to be major characters and anyway Cohen isn't as he's in 3 books. We did think of having a Troll but thought the discernment factor was more pertinent (like oiled muscles flexing admittedly)
How about the Nac MacFeegle, or the librarian?
12 ~ The Hanged Man
Halt or Suspension. Abandonment/Unshared love.
The gallows dummy in AM (FoC)? I'd say Nutt? Giving a card to a inanimate object? Silly! OVERRULED - NP with objects if the significance fits.
I'd have thought this fits Moist rather well, both literally and metaphorically.
13 ~ Death
New Start/New beginnings, even new life. Cut with the past.
Who d'you think?
(see what I did there? It's a [drum] roll)
14 ~ Temperance
Adapting to new experience. Reconciliation in business.
Black Ribbon and bats Maladicta? CMOT (entrepreneurial skills - trend-jumping)?
Twoflower? Maybe not. How about the librarian, he definitely adapted to new experiences.
15 ~ The Devil
Slavery/selfish outlook. Licentiousness/ Robberies.
Overall we think The Auditors as a collective entity that hates life Teatime? Pin and Tulip? Carcer?
I think Teatime just edges it over the others. The Auditors are entirely without any human traits or emotions, so you can't really attribute evil to them. There's Moist's enemy in Making Money, what was his name ? Cribbins!
16 ~ The Tower
Danger/Setbacks/Unexpected blow. Freeing from prison/risk of serious illness.
Tower of Art - with or without the Draco Nobilis
17 ~ The Star (Pool of the Night)
Dawning of peace hope and prosperity/beauty. Cosmic Harmonies.
Red Star from LF in night sky - reflected in a body of water. Lobsang & Jeremy (ToT)?
18 ~ The Moon
Illusion/mirage/a complicated life
Elves in moon's light - possibly riding yarrow stalks (whatever they are... (L&L) )Lily Weatherwax?
(Susan and Granny are both opponents of illusion and fight it whenever they encounter it (exposing the bogeymen and intolerance of play-acting )
Definitely one of the Lords & Ladies. How about the Queen from The Wee Free Men?
19 ~ The Sun (Dome of the Sky)
Sincere affection. Noble sentiments.
Hard one to discify this. Possibly Druids flying sarsen stones to Llamedos across a sunny sky OR use Egyptian style Nut-type Goddess from Pyramids (pooh'll like that )
Possibly Tiffany or Granny Aching?
20 ~ Judgement
A good card, predicting library work. Stability in business. Health.
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I guess the librarian is a bit obvious and literal, although 'health' fits, with the exception of 'The Last Continent', but I like him best for Temperance
21 ~ The World
If a man it’s his thoughts, if a woman it’s her personality. Perfection, Inspiration. Good health.
Great A'tuin, ellies and disc
22 ~ The Fool
In-determination, wrong advice, thoughtlessness, abandonment of material things. Incompetence.
Rincewind - who else?
Clodpool. Well, you asked!
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