And now I've listened to the other one as well. The interviewer is very good, but he sounds like Muttley when he laughs!
Both are well worth listening to, but they are both over an hour long, so make sure you have the time to listen.
Look, you've got it all wrong! You don't NEED to follow ME, You don't NEED to follow ANYBODY! You've got to think for your selves! You're ALL individuals!
Yes! We're all individuals!