Thinking fourth dimmensionally

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Thinking fourth dimmensionally

Postby unseenu » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:33 pm

I was watching back to the future part three the other night and it helped me notice something fundamentally wrong with nearly all time travel movies.

The whole concept of the same space in a different time is all wrong,the train tracks wouldn't be in the same space at all because the earth is constantly turning.Think about it,even travelling a few hours in time would dump you at some far flung corner of the earth.Apart from that the earth is moving around the sun as well as being in a rotating spiral arm of a galaxy that's moving at how many millions of miles an hour away from the centre of the universe. (Pauses for breath) if you don't believe me just listen to monty python's song which explains it better than me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk

Therefore what would actually happen every time Marty or the doc makes a jump in time they would find themselves in the middle of deep space and would quickly suffocate.

Feel free to point out anything else that doesn't quite add up in Back to the Future here.
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Postby DaveC » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:37 pm

I take it for granted that Doc Brown figured that out already. :wink:
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Postby pip » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:39 pm

The world isn't flat :shock:
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Postby DaveC » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:45 pm

pip wrote:The world isn't flat :shock:


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Postby Tonyblack » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:46 pm

We are all travelling in time all the time. It's just that we travel relative to standard time.

The HG Wells time machine might work because he stays stationary and and time accelerates around him. :)
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Postby raisindot » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:55 pm

Are you trying to say that......time travel isn't PLAUSIBLE?????????????????

Just what kinda Luddite er yuh anyway?

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Postby Quatermass » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:29 pm

Which is why the TARDIS is better than a DeLorean (as much as I love Back to the Future).

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Postby unseenu » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:12 pm

rainsdot wrote:Are you trying to say that......time travel isn't PLAUSIBLE?????????????????

Just what kinda Luddite er yuh anyway?


Time travel is plenty plausible,just not at it its shown in back to the future.Steven hawking says that if time travel is ever going to get invented why haven't we been visited by tourists from the future,I'm convinced we have.Why else would that lady I saw in france be wearing a brooch that said 'Leisure Time Travel-Liverpool'?

Getting back to back to the future can anyone rationalise the whole photographs/newspapers changing concept? I certainly can't

PS I am not a Luddite my sleep glands are in full working order(sorry for the really obscure doctor who reference)
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Postby deldaisy » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:20 pm

Thats why its called science FICTION!!!!!

Its like the Bible..... you have to have FAITH that the author knows what he is talking about... so suspend reality and just go with it :wink:

Actually unseenu.... I used to collect science fiction short stories... there WAS one based on your exact theory.... he argued all the same facts out with his other scientist mates because they HAD just invented the technology... he kept saying what YOU are saying... but you knowhow it goes.... HE had to try it.... on his own in the middle of the night.... And that microsecond before he died... he realised he had timetravelled into rock :shock: or something like that .... fade to black.
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Postby Tonyblack » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:08 pm

I once came up with an idea for a book that had some religious nut from the future going back in time to try to meet Jesus. When he got there he couldn't find him and realised that he was going to have to be Jesus himself or history would be damaged.

I was telling someone about this idea and they said - Michael Moorcock, Behold The Man. It turns out that Michael Moorcock stole my idea, travelled back in time to the 60s and published MY BOOK!!!! :evil: :wink:

And he won an award for it. :roll:
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Postby meerkat » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:39 pm

Totally unfair, Tony. Go back in time and sue him!
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Postby deldaisy » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:24 pm

meerkat wrote:Totally unfair, Tony. Go back in time and sue him!


He can't...... in order to go back in time to steal something you would have to ensure it would be someone who would NOT be alive WHEN time travel was possible... because then he could go back in time to thwart you......
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Postby meerkat » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:27 pm

Like tennis! :lol:
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Postby Quatermass » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:28 pm

deldaisy wrote:
meerkat wrote:Totally unfair, Tony. Go back in time and sue him!


He can't...... in order to go back in time to steal something you would have to ensure it would be someone who would NOT be alive WHEN time travel was possible... because then he could go back in time to thwart you......


Uh, hasn't anyone read The Restaurant at the End of the Universe? Retro-lawsuits are the way to go. :)
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Postby snowballs » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:02 pm

Quatermass wrote:
deldaisy wrote:
meerkat wrote:Totally unfair, Tony. Go back in time and sue him!


He can't...... in order to go back in time to steal something you would have to ensure it would be someone who would NOT be alive WHEN time travel was possible... because then he could go back in time to thwart you......


Uh, hasn't anyone read The Restaurant at the End of the Universe? Retro-lawsuits are the way to go. :)



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