Moist von Lipwig - love him or hate him

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Moist von Lipwig - what do you think of him?

Love Moist
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49%
Like Moist
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34%
He's So-So
5
9%
Don't Like Moist
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8%
Hate Moist
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Postby swreader » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:52 am

Sorry Jeff (and OMB)-- this idea just doesn't make any sense for two reasons: 1) We are talking about fictional characters (and thus speculation may be intriguing but makes no particular sense from a literary point of view; 2) Moist is a fun character, who grows and develops in the two books (he's a troubleshooter who gets bored once things are running smoothly). I found him much less satisfactory in MM--but then I found the whole book very unsatisfactory.

And Jeff, your statement, "
Moist doesn't need to cowtow to the aristocracy--the dying old money of the city who are rapidly becoming obselete--because he can win the hearts of the growing middle class in AM--the craftsmen, businessmen, technologies, and Dibblers of the world who will move the city forward," is totally unsupported by anything in the AM novels. What growing middle-class??? And there are still big money people who keep the banks from failing and keep the damage done by Reacher & Co's embezzlement etc. from causing a financial crisis. They act rather like the Fed. Reserve and the Congress with the TARP payments. But nothing of that seems to have trickled down in the real world, and it is unlikely to do so in AM
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Postby Dotsie » Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:18 am

Whatever anyone thinks a character would do, Terry will never replace Vetinari as Patrician, the same as he would never replace Vimes as Commander, or Granny as the Hag O' the Hills. These characters are the right tools for the job, not to mention we all like reading about them.
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Postby One Man Bucket » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:27 am

I doubt the series will actually have as much time pass in universe, as would be necessary, to render Vetinari physically or mentally incapable of doing the job. As for getting forcefully removed he seems too skilled a manipulator to have that happen unless the person doing it is Carrot but he's uninterested. All this is merely speculating on what Moist's final destination will be. There's got to be job that he'll never get bored of as it'll provide never ending thrills. Looking at AM's history the job of Patrician is anything but a peaceful one.
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Postby pip » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:29 am

Vetinari will keep going forever anyway. He has that force of will that any of the zombie charachters have.
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Postby raisindot » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:18 pm

I originally had posted here a 10,000-word response to SWreader's totally bollocks :D statement about AM not having a middle class (Hello, Harry King, William De Worde & The Times, Madame and Pepe, Ironcrust, Gimlet, etc.), but now that I see that Making Money is the topic for next month's discussion, I will hold off until then.

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Postby poohcarrot » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:26 pm

raisindot wrote:I originally had posted here a 10,000-word response to SWreader's totally bollocks :D statement about AM not having a middle class
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Postby DaveC » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:32 am

There should be a section on the poll that reads: Haven't had the pleasure yet - I would tick that one! I have third left on Wee Free Men, then its on to Monstrous Regiment! :)
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Postby pip » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:18 am

hurry dave . :shock:
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Postby DaveC » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:23 am

pip wrote:hurry dave . :shock:


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Postby pip » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:37 am

I'd love to have unread discworld books waiting . ah well .
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Postby poohcarrot » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:40 am

Pip, Have you read "Sea and little fishes"?
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Postby pip » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:46 am

I bought a copy of Legends about three years ago for 10 cent so i have read this.
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Postby poohcarrot » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:13 am

Troll bridge?
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Postby pip » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:07 am

Yep.
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:08 am

:lol: You soooo belong on this forum Pip :wink:
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