Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched you?

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Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched you?

Postby Discworldpadawan » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:48 pm

Hi All, thought I'd start a thread here with regards to what discworld character's death was the first to truly touch you in some way? I suggest we mention the book first and then "spoiler" the comment, because we will all be different, having read the books in differend orders? I wont write any comment yet incase forum members / moderators dont agree with the idea. Tony? What say you, would this thread be acceptible?
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby Tonyblack » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:36 pm

Of course. :) Great idea.

Oddly enough, I think the deaths that touched me the most were in Witches Abroad :
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The footmen that were turned to beetles and squished. Death didn't come for them and it just felt so cruel somehow.
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby raisindot » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:40 pm

I don't think there's a need to say spoiler in a message--the whole thread is going to be filled with spoilers in any case.

Per the topic, I'd say the death of Miss Flitworth in Reaper Man is very touching, even though her death had been delayed by Death's "retirement."

I also found the death-by-chocolate of Myria LeJean in Thief of Time a bit sad, even though she was an auditor, albeit one who had become "humanized."

But probably the most "heartfelt" death was the off-screen death of Susan's parents, which occurred before Soul Music began, although it is re-enacted (through memory) in the novel itself. I suppose it needed to happen, since without these deaths Susan would never have been "adopted" by Death and become the "magical" person she is.
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby Discworldpadawan » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:22 pm

Cheers Tony, thought I'd better ask approval first :)

Raisindot, I just thought we'd better "spoiler" things for people who want to read the thread and look for books they have read, for any similarities in the way they felt. I haven't read Reaper man or thief of time for example, but I know who dies in them now! :(
Anywho, that aside, I've just finished reading Men at arms, Im reading through the City watch lot at the moment, :-

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, and I was absolutely devastated when Cuddy Died :cry: I was wondering why I hadn't heared of him in other books, but I loved the way him and Detritus had started to bond, after such a rocky start (no pun intended!) to their careers together in the watch. I bet they would have ended up great friends, like Colon and Nobby. Out of the 13 Discworld books I've now read, I can honestly say that Cuddy's death upset me the most, to date. He had a great personality to him :(
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby mirandashell » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:00 pm

raisindot wrote:I

But probably the most "heartfelt" death was the off-screen death of Susan's parents, which occurred before Soul Music began, although it is re-enacted (through memory) in the novel itself. I suppose it needed to happen, since without these deaths Susan would never have been "adopted" by Death and become the "magical" person she is.


Susan wasn't adopted, though. She 'inherited'.

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But I do agree with the beetle and mouse though
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby Tonyblack » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:22 pm

No need to ask, padawan. :) This site will only stay interesting if we all join in and make posts. ;)
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby DaveC » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:10 pm

Discworldpadawan wrote:Cheers Tony, thought I'd better ask approval first :)

Raisindot, I just thought we'd better "spoiler" things for people who want to read the thread and look for books they have read, for any similarities in the way they felt. I haven't read Reaper man or thief of time for example, but I know who dies in them now! :(
Anywho, that aside, I've just finished reading Men at arms, Im reading through the City watch lot at the moment, :-

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, and I was absolutely devastated when Cuddy Died :cry: I was wondering why I hadn't heared of him in other books, but I loved the way him and Detritus had started to bond, after such a rocky start (no pun intended!) to their careers together in the watch. I bet they would have ended up great friends, like Colon and Nobby. Out of the 13 Discworld books I've now read, I can honestly say that Cuddy's death upset me the most, to date. He had a great personality to him :(


I agree about the spoilers (bad Rasindot!), though, it's a shame that you've created a topic that is hard to feedback on others' thought if they are on books that you haven't read yet.

And to your spoiler, wow, I felt exactly the same when I read it, it really hit me, although I read them all in order, so maybe not in quite the same way...
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby Discworldpadawan » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:22 pm

[quote="DaveC"]

I agree about the spoilers (bad Rasindot!), though, it's a shame that you've created a topic that is hard to feedback on others' thought if they are on books that you haven't read yet. quote]

Merely incentive for people to read more Discworld Books Dave! ;) You said you read them in order, did you mean right from the colour of magic, upto the present, in the order they were actually written? If so, sounds fab! Still see nothing wrong with reading them hap-hazardly though, like myself :) As sir terry said himself, they are all written in view that anyone can pick any of the books up for the first time, read it independently of the others, and still get enjoyment out of it :)

Going back to Men at arms :
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I had a great chuckle at what, for me to date at least, has been Death's shortest and most to-the-point appearance :-
Death - BIG FIDO?
Big Fido - Yes?
Death - HEEL! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Considering Big Fido was talked up to be so hard as nails and tough thruought the book, it made Death's simplistic take-down of him when he met his demise all the more hilarious :lol:
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby =Tamar » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:25 pm

I read the books in order as they came out.
The first book in which a character's death touched me was The Colour of Magic, when
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Rincewind fell off the edge at the end, and was written as dying. I was so infuriated that I refused to read the next book for years.
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby RolandItwasntmyfault » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:27 am

Discworldpadawan about Men at Arms wrote:
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, and I was absolutely devastated when Cuddy Died :cry: I was wondering why I hadn't heared of him in other books, but I loved the way him and Detritus had started to bond, after such a rocky start (no pun intended!) to their careers together in the watch. I bet they would have ended up great friends, like Colon and Nobby. Out of the 13 Discworld books I've now read, I can honestly say that Cuddy's death upset me the most, to date. He had a great personality to him :(



Yes, this was the most touchy death I read, too.

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I mean ... the death of Myria/Unitiy in Thief of Time made me sad (it felt so unnecessary), the death of the footmen and also the poor little wolf (who half thinks he is human half thinks he is wolf) in Witches Abroad, too. This has been death which I felt not good about ... but Cuddy ... this was, for the first time, so really touching that I felt a bad feeling in the stomach.
Perhaps because he was one of the main characters of the book, his relationship with Detritus such great stuff!
Until the very end I quietly still hoped he nevertheless would have been survived somehow ... (against all evidence). :cry:

And in contrast this passage about Fido ... Heel! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby raisindot » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:57 pm

Discworldpadawan wrote:
DaveC wrote:
I agree about the spoilers (bad Rasindot!), though, it's a shame that you've created a topic that is hard to feedback on others' thought if they are on books that you haven't read yet. quote]


I would say that as the topic creator, Discworldpadawan, if you're worried about "spoiler exposure," it is your responsibility to put "Huge Spoilers" in the title of the thread as a warning, but once done you can't possibly expect people not to post the way they want to. :mrgreen:

In any case, it's pretty much a given around this part of the forum that if you go into any discussion of any book you're going to run across spoilers of some kind of the other. And in a thread like yours, it's absolutely certain that spoilers will be there. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read the thread. :lol:
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby Discworldpadawan » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:45 pm

Indeed! Advice taken on-board for future posts, Raisindot! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby RolandItwasntmyfault » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:46 am

Got a point, yes.

I just have read my last posting again ... spoiler ... one single sentence ... spoiler ... errr ...

Yes, I think we could be a little bit fewer strict in this thread (perhaps spoiler warning in the title although actually it should be rather obvious that you get spoiled about death of people in discworld books).


Nevertheless I am still reluctant to spoil too much about the contents of any book (even if spoilers are allowed).
One death I yesterday night read about in Guards! Guards! also felt rather cruel to me, on the same level as in Wichtes Abroad the death of the footmen: The death of the guy with the three daughters.
He isn't even named but it shows very drastically what it means to have a mighty (dragon) king around.
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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby Mixa » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:30 pm

I agree with you. The “Men at arms” death was a shame! But you know what? I'm a very, VERY emotional person when it comes to this (I can spend an entire day crying because of a sad ending) but with Pratchett books I've never felt that way. Maybe it's how he talks about it, with the hilarious entry on stage of Death, that even a death makes you smile, or the lack of very important character's death. Or if in the event that it happens, he'll make it in a so gentle way that it'll make you smile anyway.

I don't know, its just my opinion, but with Pratchett I've never needed handkerchiefs handy. Well yes, but to wipe my tears of laughter :mrgreen:

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Re: Who was the 1st discworld character who's death touched

Postby Discworldpadawan » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:33 pm

Mixa wrote:I agree with you. The “Men at arms” death was a shame! But you know what? I'm a very, VERY emotional person when it comes to this (I can spend an entire day crying because of a sad ending) but with Pratchett books I've never felt that way. Maybe it's how he talks about it, with the hilarious entry on stage of Death, that even a death makes you smile, or the lack of very important character's death. Or if in the event that it happens, he'll make it in a so gentle way that it'll make you smile anyway.

I don't know, its just my opinion, but with Pratchett I've never needed handkerchiefs handy. Well yes, but to wipe my tears of laughter :mrgreen:

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This is a good point, I think when people die discworld-style and Death appears, the occasion is usually more comical than sad! Probably because the newly-deceased just start complaining or argueing with Death that its most inconvienient to be dying right now :lol: Add this to Death trying to be more Human, and even attempting Humor sometimes, and sad how a death can sometimes be, the sadness dosent last long when Discworld Death appears :lol:
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