Which novels work as stand alone novels?

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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Sister Jennifer » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:30 pm

Alanz wrote:I've just read The Truth and i thought it was -ing brilliant.



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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Malvern » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:17 pm

Alanz wrote:I've just read The Truth and i thought it was -ing brilliant.


I especially loved the description of the basement scene during the fire; where the melted lead printing press keys were dripping down like rain. It's both beautiful and horrifying (depending on where on is standing!).
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Tonyblack » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:32 pm

Welcome to the site, Malvern! :D

I once got chatting to an American woman on a plane after she noticed my Assassins' Guild badge on my bag. She was a journalist and I recommended The Truth to her. I don't know if she ever read it, but she certainly seemed interested.
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby DreadfulKata » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:15 pm

Interesting... I was just re-reading Thud! and wondering if there was a conscious effort to make it more accessible to new readers. It just seems more explanatory of stuff than other DW books... there was one footnote in particular:

'Yes, The Goddess Anoia* Arisng From The Cutlery,' said Nobby. 'They've got it here. It was painted by a bloke with three i's in his name, which sounds pretty artistic to me.'

* Anoia is the Ankh-Morpork goddess of things that get stuck in drawers


What, no joke? Just literally the information? That seemed so uncharacteristic of Pratchett to me I even wondered if an editor had inserted it, with new readers in mind (my edition is one put out by Waterstone's at a special low price, presumably to encourage people to pick it up where they hadn't read any PTerry before).

And the tone generally in Thud! Feels more explanatoy than other Watch/DW books. Given that Thud! came out around the same time as more stand-alone and/or no-mythology-needed stuff like Going Postal and the The Tiffany Aching books I wondered if around this time PTerry was consciously trying to be more inviting to DW newcomers?
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Dotsie » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:23 pm

DreadfulKata wrote:What, no joke? Just literally the information?

The information is the joke - it's a pun for starters, and let's face it, who couldn't envisage offering up a little prayer when the ladle gets stuck at the top of the drawer again? "For God's sake! Please just open! My dinner's burning!"
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Tonyblack » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:30 pm

That's the way I always looked at it. I thought it was a very funny idea when I first read it. :lol:

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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby =Tamar » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:11 am

raptornx01 wrote:I thought it was just set up. then again, i knew there were more books.

it's funny. i thought at the end that would be the start of them traveling to other worlds like the ones the water troll talked about.

I thought that might have been one of the options Sir Terry had in mind, since his previous novels were both science fiction, but instead he chose to continue with Discworld, for which I am thankful.
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby DreadfulKata » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:24 pm

Dotsie wrote:
DreadfulKata wrote:What, no joke? Just literally the information?

The information is the joke - it's a pun for starters, and let's face it, who couldn't envisage offering up a little prayer when the ladle gets stuck at the top of the drawer again? "For God's sake! Please just open! My dinner's burning!"


Oh hang on - is this the first mention we get of Anoia? I vaguely assumed she'd come up before Thud!. That;s what you get for rereading in random orders.

Well, that would explain matters.
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Tonyblack » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:35 pm

Hmmmm . . . I've got a feeling she was mentioned briefly in Going Postal as well, now you mention it. :think:

The point was (I think) that in Thud! they were talking about a particular painting that sounds a lot like the Discworld version of Venus Rising From the Sea. :)

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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby raisindot » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:41 pm

DreadfulKata wrote:Oh hang on - is this the first mention we get of Anoia? I vaguely assumed she'd come up before Thud!. That;s what you get for rereading in random orders.

Well, that would explain matters.


Yes, Anoia was first mentioned in Going Postal, where she (or her priestess) played a key role in Moist's "religious trance." In Thud! the footnote is needed for those who hadn't yet read Going Postal. The Thud footnote is not one of his better footnotes, but repeated the entire Anoia footnote from GP would have been a little too much.
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Tonyblack » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:02 pm

Anoia appears again in Wintersmith (2006).
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Dotsie » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:14 pm

Not her first appearance, no, but my point was you don't have to have come across her before to get the joke.

I used to pray to her regularly, then she sent me two jars to stand my serving spoons in :D
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby The Mad Collector » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:53 pm

Presumably as this is Anoia we are talking about they are just a little too small for the spoons to fit comfortably ;)
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Dotsie » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:06 pm

Well the first one was, we had to pray really hard to get the second one :lol:
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Re: Which novels work as stand alone novels?

Postby Square12 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:42 pm

I really liked the ending of CoM for the same reasons I love the ending of the original version of The Italian Job film. Surely what happens next is left to your imagination, if you want to let rincewind continue falling and ultimately die you can, but if you want something magical to happen, likewise you can! Before I read LF I imagined the luggage swallowing him and swimming up the rimfall or something (I knew he survived because I read the books out of sequence)
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