Quatermass wrote:The central problem with creationism is that you cannot test God, yet science demands that you put everything to the test.
raisindot wrote:Quatermass wrote:The central problem with creationism is that you cannot test God, yet science demands that you put everything to the test.
I'm no creationist, but at the moment there are some scientific theories that can't be 'physically' tested or observed and possibly may never be, such as string theory. At best then, one can say that one 'believes ' in string theory, just as one says they 'believe' in intelligent design.
Quatermass wrote:The potential to put them to the test, or else dump the theories in favour of ones that actually fit the facts, is still there.
raisindot wrote:Quatermass wrote:The potential to put them to the test, or else dump the theories in favour of ones that actually fit the facts, is still there.
Absolutely true. The problem comes when physical evidence doesn't exist to prove the theory. Math is not enough. Einstein's general theory of relatively never gained acceptance until it was proven by astronomical observation in 1919. It took even longer for his special theory of relatively to be proven.
In the case of the natural selection vs. intelligent design debate, this may never been proven. Both theories accept evolution as fact; what they debate is what processes drove evolution. Even when you see evolution in action today, such as Tony's point about bacterial mutating to resist antibiotics, one could easily argue that an intelligent designer was responsible for the mutation that caused resulted in one lonely bacterium to be able to resist death by penicillin and go on to multiply, while all the other bacterium died out. Natural selection advocates would say that a random mutuation caused that bacterium to be born with that resistance.
Tonyblack wrote:For those who missed them, what Australian references did you spot?
I'm sure everyone got that Rincewind managed to invent Vegemite - or did you?
raisindot wrote:Weren't there a couple Mad Max/Road Warrior references in there somewhere?
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