So, you've discovered Discworld...

Moderators: Jason, Toothy, Tonyblack

Postby Tonyblack » Sun May 08, 2011 9:52 pm

I agree, Happy-Fish ! The books demand to be read more than once. You certainly won't get everything the first time you rwad them.

Take The Truth for example. I've read it loads of times, but it was only on my recent rereading that I spotted an awful pun. It's the bit where William and Vimes have a row and Sam waving his truncheon around and William is yeilding his notebook.

'Now you put your notebook down, lad.' he suggested in a quiet voice. 'That way, it's just me and you. No . . . clash of symbols.'
:roll: :lol: I can't believe I neverf saw that before. :oops:

Welcome to the site, Happy-Fish - I'm glad you took the plunge. :D
"Goodness is about what you do. Not what you pray to."
User avatar
Tonyblack
Moderator
 
Posts: 29336
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:29 pm
Location: Cardiff, Wales

Postby Who's Wee Dug » Sun May 08, 2011 11:23 pm

Welcome to the forum, Happy Fish. :)
He willnae tak' a drink! I think he's deid! , on the other hand though A Midgie in yir hand is worth twa up yir kilt.
User avatar
Who's Wee Dug
Member
 
Posts: 15236
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Stirlingshire, Scotland

Postby Penfold » Sun May 08, 2011 11:28 pm

Hellooo and welcome Happy-fish! :D
The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.


Len Brook Photography
User avatar
Penfold
Member
 
Posts: 7404
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:59 am
Location: Worthing

Postby meerkat » Mon May 09, 2011 6:47 am

Tonyblack wrote:I agree, Happy-Fish ! The books demand to be read more than once. You certainly won't get everything the first time you rwad them.

Take The Truth for example. I've read it loads of times, but it was only on my recent rereading that I spotted an awful pun. It's the bit where William and Vimes have a row and Sam waving his truncheon around and William is yeilding his notebook.

'Now you put your notebook down, lad.' he suggested in a quiet voice. 'That way, it's just me and you. No . . . clash of symbols.'
:roll: :lol: I can't believe I neverf saw that before. :oops:



The pen being mightier than the sword! :wink:
Just a meerkat from The Effing Forest
User avatar
meerkat
Member
 
Posts: 13476
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:32 pm
Location: Wilberfoss East Riding Yorkshire

Postby Happy-Fish » Mon May 09, 2011 2:43 pm

Thank you, kind people, for your welcomes! :D
Happy-Fish
New member
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Sun May 08, 2011 8:53 pm
Location: Gloucester

Postby rockershovel » Mon May 09, 2011 6:39 pm

I started reading them many years ago, I travel a great deal ( oil industry ) and read all sorts of stuff. They were definitely a cut above some of the dross you buy in airports and railway stations and I've enjoyed them and stayed with them.

I've never yet bought a hardback although I've had a few as presents or as books left in my cabin by my predecessor.

On the whole I'd suggest that someone coming to them fresh would do well to skip Equal Rites ( because it differs to much from the subsequent canon ) and possibly Making Money ( because of the similarities to Going Postal ).

One book which hasn't had a mention elsewhere but I enjoyed hugely, is Maskerade.
rockershovel
Member
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:25 am

Postby ShadowNinjaCat » Mon May 09, 2011 6:40 pm

Welcome Happy-Fish :D
“We are all in the gutter,but some of us are looking at the stars.”- Oscar Wilde
User avatar
ShadowNinjaCat
Member
 
Posts: 3672
Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:01 pm
Location: South Africa

Postby author3 » Mon May 09, 2011 6:41 pm

I just started Maskerade today
Do you know the Buffy fan?The Buffy fan,the Buffy fan.Do you know the Buffy fan?The one who is extremely obsessed.
User avatar
author3
Member
 
Posts: 2358
Joined: Sun May 08, 2011 8:46 am
Location: Sunnydale Highschool

Postby Siren » Mon May 09, 2011 8:02 pm

Tonyblack wrote:
'Now you put your notebook down, lad.' he suggested in a quiet voice. 'That way, it's just me and you. No . . . clash of symbols.'
:roll: :lol: I can't believe I neverf saw that before. :oops:


Haha amazing! I read that bit earlier today and that naughty little pun slipped right under my nose... :oops:

Thanks ! :D
Image
"Stories of imagination tend to upset those without one."
currently reading:The Fifth Elephant
User avatar
Siren
Member
 
Posts: 53
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:34 pm
Location: Southampton,UK

Postby Teppic » Mon May 09, 2011 8:44 pm

rockershovel wrote:On the whole I'd suggest that someone coming to them fresh would do well to skip Equal Rites ( because it differs to much from the subsequent canon ) and possibly Making Money ( because of the similarities to Going Postal ).


Eek! :shock:

Seriously, I know you're just answering the questions in this thread, but I think we know by now that people have wildly different favourites. I don't think missing out books is good advice for a new reader.

Equal Rites is a nice introduction to Granny's character and I think you really appreciate just how much Terry's style matures in such a short time when you read Wyrd Sisters straight afterwards. The former is a fun book with a few witty points about gender stereotypes, the latter a full-blown Shakespearian parody with a lot more depth but just as fun.

And Making Money is similar to Going Postal in so many ways but it's a great book about the city of Ankh Morpork's workings. I love all the books which have the city as a character in itself and I think both the Moist books do this very well.

If you're going to miss out any of them, skip Reaper Man, incredibly frustrating book imho. :wink:

No, but seriously, reading them in order of the story arcs is the best advice I could give, and make your own mind up about what's to like and what's not to like. 8)
User avatar
Teppic
Member
 
Posts: 256
Joined: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:24 pm
Location: Outskirts of Londinium

Postby rockershovel » Tue May 10, 2011 8:59 am

I've felt for a long while that it's a great pity that the novella and short story have gone out of favour.

Animal Farm, Brave New World, Scoop! ( which says more about the press than The Truth in half the length ), Conrad's 'the Secret Agent' and 'Lord Jim' .. I recently read Robert Silverberg's collection 'Sailing to Byzantium' and what a treat THAT was.

Reaper Man is a classic example of a really good novella padded out into a fairly large novel. Keep the 'Bill Door/Miss Flitwick' thread and ditch the rest completely. Unseen Academicals has a touch of this. The 'Moist' books could be easily condensed into a single volume containing two novellas, akin to Colour of Magic ( which I tend to think is a better book than people give it credit for )

I'd also take a similar view of the Tiffany books, especially Wintersmith and I Shall Wear Midnight seems to have a dose of Niven's Syndrome, the attempt to combine and unify a number of threads and elements which are not originally consistent or related, or have said everything that can usefully be said about the subject ( especially the Nac Mac Feegle ). TP is fairly lax about canon and continuity when it suits him, and it shows in this book.


Last Continent doesn't work for me at all, being driven almost entirely by the need to include a range of gags and themes which can't be used anywhere else.

Carpe Jugulem is in the same vein ( FX GROANS )


I rather enjoy the semi-self-contained parodies like Small Gods, Maskerade, Pyramids and Eric/Faust which stand partly outside the main canon. Likewise Last Hero, which I rather enjoyed... perhaps it's just me.
rockershovel
Member
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:25 am

Postby Tonyblack » Tue May 10, 2011 9:27 am

rockershovel wrote:<snip>perhaps it's just me.
I think it must be just you. I don't think I've ever read a post that I disagree with as much as that post.

I wouldn't change a single word of the Tiffany books and the series as it is is completely necessary as we are seeing Tiffany at various stages in her life and in her training. Even with the two later books - the Tiffany of Wintersmith is a somewhat different person to the one in ISWM. She's in a totally different circumstance and the issues addressed in the books are different. The reader grows with Tiffany and sees things through her eyes.

Reaper Man - you need the different story arcs because they compliment each other. They show cause and effect. They also mark a change in the Discworld series - a letting go of the old ways and an introduction to a more industrial age.

I'm not a fan of Making Money, but it's a different book and a different Moist in the two. The first book is very much a voyager of discovery, Making Money is a more 'what happens next' sequel. The two don't belong in the same book.

I think you may have missed the point in CJ and Last Continent. Yes there are all sorts of references to vampires and Australia respectively, but that's not really what the books are about. Carpe Jugulum in particular is an excellent book. I think LC is much weaker, but the whole theme of Creationism v Evolution is very well done.

Oddly enough, with the exception of Small Gods at the end of your post, you've listed some of my least favourite books. Books that I tend to think of as Pratchett Lite. :lol:

But hey, it wouldn't do if we were all the same. :wink:
"Goodness is about what you do. Not what you pray to."
User avatar
Tonyblack
Moderator
 
Posts: 29336
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:29 pm
Location: Cardiff, Wales

Postby rockershovel » Tue May 10, 2011 3:27 pm

de gustibus non disputandum
rockershovel
Member
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:25 am

Re: So, you've discovered Discworld...

Postby Fragus » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:16 pm

Okay, here we go

1. How did you come to read your first Discworld book?

My friends and I all used to play AD&D round one of their parents house, their parents played too! My friends mother handed me a paperback and said that I would enjoy it and I should borrow it.

2. What was your first Discworld book?

That book was The Colour of Magic.

3. Will you read more?

I started buying the books as and when I wanted a holiday read. Unfortunately I am not a fast reader. Good Omens has been read to death, well the first hundred pages or so. I put books down and then have to start again. I have only fully read a handful of the early ones.

4. Which one do you intend to read next?

No idea, started on UA recently, but only read half a dozen pages.

5. If you didn't start with Colour of Magic, how easily did you find it to get into Discworld? Did you feel that some background knowledge was necessary?

I started with TCoM, but I think (looking at bookshelf), you could probably pick up any of them as they are pretty much singular reads all set in one world.
Just because we can, doesn't mean we should........ "OOoo look big red shiny button" Click Click Click
User avatar
Fragus
Member
 
Posts: 76
Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:00 pm
Location: Milton Keynes

Re: So, you've discovered Discworld...

Postby Nomad » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:36 pm

1. How did you come to read your first Discworld book?

I was in the library and saw books that had very funny covers. So I took one. It happened about 3 years ago. The funny thing is that my teacher had recomended the Discworld books to my class for 3 years already, but I didnt pay attention. :mrgreen:

2. What was your first Discworld book?

I think that the first book was Sourcery, but it could have been also Wyrd Sisters. Cant be sure, my memory is really bad.

3. Will you read more?

I will surely read more, when I get my hands on some of the books. :mrgreen:

4. Which one do you intend to read next?

Wintersmith, The Truth or Snuff. Whichever I will find first.

5. If you didn't start with Colour of Magic, how easily did you find it to get into Discworld? Did you feel that some background knowledge was necessary?

The books are fun to read anyways, so I think that the backround knowledge isnt necessery, but I still started to read them in the right order. As good as i could, because I cant buy the books and all the books arent in the same libray. I have used 5 different librarys to read the series. I only own Going Postal, it was a gift for graduation.
Nomad
New member
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:56 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Discworld novels

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests