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by **Tonyblack** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:39 am

Well I enjoyed it. I wouldn't call it a Watch book though, I'd say it was a Vimes book in the same way that Fifth Elephant and Thud! were Vimes books. Well worth a read. :wink:

by **One Man Bucket** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:11 pm

There was a lot of Vimes in those books but I wouldn't call them Vimes books. Night Watch was the first of the Vimes books IMO

by **meerkat** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:51 pm

A thought came to me this afternoon whilst cleaning around.

How old is Fred Colon?

He was supposed to retire somewhere around Feet of Clay but six or seven years later he's still there...! :shock:

by **Tonyblack** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:47 pm

meerkat wrote:A thought came to me this afternoon whilst cleaning around.

How old is Fred Colon?

He was supposed to retire somewhere around Feet of Clay but six or seven years later he's still there...!

And the rest! Young Sam is six in Snuff and he wasn't even born until Nightwatch - just to give some idea of the timeline. :wink:

by **meerkat** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:49 pm

Blimey, so that's what mumping does for you! You live forever! :lol:

by **Tonyblack** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:57 pm

Maybe he's a zombie... :lol:

by **meerkat** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:12 pm

That would really freak him out! :lol:

by **raisindot** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:41 pm

I don't think Fred is that much older than Vimes. He didn't seem to be in Night Watch; if Vimes was around 18, Fred might have been around 25 or so.

Can't remember how many years passed between the Keel period of Night Watch and the 'present' period of the same book (was it 20 or 25?), but if this is true Vimes wouldn't have much older than 43 in the 'present' period of Night Watch. That would made Fred around 50 or so. Add another six years to the time of Snuff and Vimes is 49 and Fred could be 56. Hardly an old fogey, even if lifespans are shorter on the DW.

by **Tonyblack** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:48 pm

And we are assuming that Fred was retiring in Feet of Clay due to old age. This is not necessarily so. After all he was planning to buy a farm and settle down to that. In Snuff there is an ex policeman who has retired and bought a pub. He doesn't seem particularly old.

Sharlene and I were talking about this the other day and she wondered if Fred wasn't retiring due to all the different species joining the Watch. Fred is one of nature's natural bigots I think. :wink:

by **meerkat** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:56 pm

He can't be now, not after having his own unggue pot! :lol:

by **Tonyblack** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:01 pm

meerkat wrote:He can't be now, not after having his own unggue pot!

It's the ultimate revenge on a bigot. Like a KKK member waking up to find he's turned black overnight. :lol:

by **Joolz** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:28 pm

Finished Snuff And in my not so humble opinion its the best one for a while

by **meerkat** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:38 am

Why have a humble opinion, Joolz? It is a great book! Better than UA anyway! :lol:

by **pip** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:53 am

Forty pages left and i have to work ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH

by **Penfold** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:13 am

pip wrote:Forty pages left and i have to work ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH

Same here.

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