The "I shall wear midnight" thread

[Tonyblack]

Very true!

[GrannyWeatherwax]

Having read all of the Tiffany books the thought that keeps coming to my mind is that Tiffany is Granny's natural successor as the Hag 'o Hags. This could be Granny's last appearance, all witches have to die sometime after all (and they usually know what time it will be).

[Tristan]

It's a strange thought, Granny dying...

[Tonyblack]

I really don't see why Terry would kill off Granny - there's no need. She's one of the most popular characters and anyhow, Tiffany will be going back to the Chalk eventually.

Terry doesn't kill off characters for the sake of it. He certainly doesn't do what a certain other author of a popular fantasy series did - announce that she'd be killing off a major character, start a whole bunch of speculation and then only kill off someone who we'd only just been introduced to in the first place.

[GrannyWeatherwax]

Tiffany is tied to the chalk I agree, but is there any reason why the hag 'o hags couldn't be a witch of the chalk?

If 'I shall wear Midnight' was to be the last appearance of Granny it wouldn't surprise me, simply because Tiffany has been developed as such a strong character who clearly has Granny's approval. Granny may disappear in a way that will always have us wondering where she went and whether or nor she will come back.

[Tristan]

I think Tiffany can learn a lot from Esk - that is IF Esk returns in ISWM; them meeting will be really interesting.

And I hope we'll see Agnes and Magrat for the last time... A kind of reunion.

[Tonyblack]

Sharlene and Iwere talking about this earlier and wondered if maybe Terry would be writing this set in Tiffany's future - maybe when she's an older lady herself. In which case Granny would be dead anyway.

There's no reason that the books have to follow a strict timeline after all.

[Lady Vetinari]

I think he is thinking of making Granny die soon - I reckon that was the whole point of Tiffany being trained and seeing the other young witches ... It's to show us that yes there will be a time when Nanny Ogg and Granny Weatherwax will no longer be around and Tiffany will be like Granny Weatherwax in some ways but I also think she'll be like Nanny Ogg in other's ...

And Magrat will when grey and old look at covens as a way of getting someone else to make the tea ...

[poohcarrot]

Sharlene and Iwere talking about this earlier and wondered if maybe Terry would be writing this set in Tiffany's future - maybe when she's an older lady herself. In which case Granny would be dead anyway.

There's no reason that the books have to follow a strict timeline after all.

Can't see that happening. It's meant to be a children's book, so there must be children in it ie; Tiff. Who's to say that Esk has grown up though?

I also can't see the point of killing off Granny. Killing off one of the major characters would seem too much like the beginning of the end for Discworld. Certain characters are, and will always be, immortal.

[Jan Van Quirm]

Pooh's quite right They're book characters - they're all immortal.

I agree that Tiffany and Granny will both continue to be alive and kicking bottom. The only person not immortal is Terry himself, so, as he is such a kind and noble person, he won't be killing off any of his principal characters who have inspired and delighted his fans and indeed himself.

Also in Roundworld terms how old are the original Witches? Nanny has gradkids and Jason her eldest doesn't appear to be that ancient so Nanny, being an obliging wench (and starting her matriarchal career young as t'were) may only be in her early 50's perhaps Witches age differently anyway - croneship has to be worked at and once they're done with making babies (if they choose that route) there's only one place to go in the coven hierarchy. Also remember that Granny has perfect skin and that isn't because she's assiduously avoided frowning, glaring and other wrinkle inducing activities. She's no older than Nanny remember...

[poohcarrot]

Pooh's quite riight They're book characters - they're all immortal.

! I'm riight for once?!

(prepare to be pleasently surprised by the end of next week Jan, it went out yesterday. )

[Jan Van Quirm]

Pooh's quite riight They're book characters - they're all immortal.

! I'm riight for once?!

(prepare to be pleasently surprised by the end of next week Jan, it went out yesterday. )

Silly ole bear! *only thinks about hugging you*

[poohcarrot]

How come you only put one "i" in silly?

[Tristan]

Sharlene and Iwere talking about this earlier and wondered if maybe Terry would be writing this set in Tiffany's future - maybe when she's an older lady herself. In which case Granny would be dead anyway.

There's no reason that the books have to follow a strict timeline after all.

Do you mean Tiffany & Esk, or Tiffany, Magrat and Agnes?

Hm, just imagine... Tiffany as the maid, Agnes as the mother and Magrat as... the other one.

[Jan Van Quirm]

How come you only put one "i" in silly?

Because I'm presently erratically dyslexic? Just a random typo and no 'point' intended