The Art of Reading?

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Postby Trish » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:10 am

swreader wrote:Let me introduce you to another of my favorites --from a much later period. Arnold's [Dover Beach] reacts to Darwinism and the conflict between science and religion...
Matthew Arnold is an often overlooked but, I think, a very modern poet both in world view and in style.


I love Arnold, his literary criticisms remain relevant.
His poetry is for the thinking man.


But I would do anything to not have to read Gerard Manley Hopkins.
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Postby poohbcarrot » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:17 am

Trish wrote:
I love Arnold, his literary criticisms remain relevant.
His poetry is for the thinking man.


...but obviously not for the thinking woman because her brains might explode! :lol:
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Postby Trish » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:43 am

poohbcarrot wrote:
Trish wrote:
I love Arnold, his literary criticisms remain relevant.
His poetry is for the thinking man.


...but obviously not for the thinking woman because her brains might explode! :lol:



Only because her corset's too tight. ;0)
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Postby poohbcarrot » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:05 am

Isn't a " thinking man" an oxymoron? :lol:
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Postby Exp. Date, the rat » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:19 am

I haven't read this whole thread but Stephen King has stated the same in his books for a few years calling everyone "Constant Readers" and say that without us reading his books he wouldn't have a job, and his fan base for keeping him honest in some of his books. Mostly the Dark Tower series and spin off books.
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Postby poohbcarrot » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:35 am

Trish wrote:
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Trish wrote:You know what a 'contrary' is, right. Take two contraries, stack em up side by side, watch each prove the other to be so.


Can you give me a simple example, please?


Yeah, I can. Got to look it up.


Can't you just make one up?

For example, would this be right?

Initial hypothesis = In Manchester it always rains. In Majorca it's always sunny.

So if it's sunny in Manchester, and at the same time it's raining in Majorca, this proves the initial hypothesis wrong.

Would these be imploded contraries?
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:25 pm

poohbcarrot wrote:Isn't a " thinking man" an oxymoron? :lol:

Stop thinking so much pooh - you'll turn into the butt end of an oxymoron. Women should think more and yak less and men should just think less (and do as they're told naturally). :twisted:

The world would soooo much happier! :wink:
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Postby Trish » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:09 pm

poohbcarrot wrote:Isn't a " thinking man" an oxymoron? :lol:


No. It's a pronoun.
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Postby Trish » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:11 pm

poohbcarrot wrote:
Trish wrote:
poohbcarrot wrote:
Trish wrote:You know what a 'contrary' is, right. Take two contraries, stack em up side by side, watch each prove the other to be so.


Can you give me a simple example, please?


Yeah, I can. Got to look it up.


Can't you just make one up?

For example, would this be right?

Initial hypothesis = In Manchester it always rains. In Majorca it's always sunny.

So if it's sunny in Manchester, and at the same time it's raining in Majorca, this proves the initial hypothesis wrong.

Would these be imploded contraries?


No, they would be syllogistic opinions.

Pooh, I've got it, I'll find it.
Meanwhile, I'm doing UI appeal research (decisions) online. My money trumps your contrariness. ;0)
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Postby poohbcarrot » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:18 pm

Trish wrote:
poohbcarrot wrote:Isn't a " thinking man" an oxymoron? :lol:


No. It's a pronoun.


No, it isn't. It's an adjective and a noun. :D
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Postby poohbcarrot » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:31 pm

Jan Van Quirm wrote:Women should think more and yak less and men should just think less (and do as they're told naturally). :twisted:


Firstly, I reckon you put one word too many in your post.

Secondly, coming from the woman whose posts are the size of a Sunday newspaper colour supplement, it's a bit rich! :lol:
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Postby chris.ph » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:11 pm

come on now pooh stop picking on jan, you know her posts are longer than that :lol: :lol:
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Postby poohbcarrot » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:32 pm

:lol:
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Postby Trish » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:56 pm

poohbcarrot wrote:
Trish wrote:
poohbcarrot wrote:Isn't a " thinking man" an oxymoron? :lol:


No. It's a pronoun.


No, it isn't. It's an adjective and a noun. :D


I'll give you the adjective.
However, in this sentence, "man" refers to human or mankind.
So, it's a pronoun.

Call, raise or fold.
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Postby poohbcarrot » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:36 am

Raise!

A pronoun takes the place of a noun. You can't use a definite or indefinite article with a pronoun. You can't use an adjective before a pronoun. The following sentence is silly!

"The besotted I love the beautiful you. :?

"The thinking man" defies both of these rules. 8)

You're using the word "Man" as an uncountable noun referring to the group of humans. Just like the following setence;

"The cheetah is the fastest animal"

By your logic, "the cheetah" is a pronoun.

Raise, or fold? :twisted:
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