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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Seimimac » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:01 pm

'...I have been on the receiving end of anti-English comments, but it is always written off as ‘Auld Enemy’ banter. ”'

Scotland, Ireland, France, Argentina, Germany - just 5 of the countries referred to as 'the old enemy' by English commentators and media, whenever they meet up in major sporting events. Any wonder that Scots would reciprocate with the same term?

'But it often does not feel like banter if you are on the receiving end.'

So this guy can dish it out, but can't take it? ;)

I think that banter like this, and it is banter, is pretty harmless in itself, although it stems from a much darker history of conquest and colonisation.

I think the burning of any flag is disgraceful. We see far too much of it here in NI, by both 'sides', and it always angers me. For Scottish football fans to burn any flag for any reason brings shame on those individuals, though not the nation of Scotland, as it wasn't burned by the Scottish parliament. There are idiots in every country who will do this type of thing.

'Or of the Welsh footballers being told NOT to sing the National Anthem during the Olympics?'

Would they have been allowed to sing 'Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau'? That is, after all, their national anthem? Could the Scots have sung Flower of Scotland? National anthems are a contentious issue on these isles, and perhaps some of the competitors felt that it would be going against their own national identity to sing a song that is seen as exclusively English, especially considering that it used refer to crushing the 'rebellious Scots'?

As to the ABE thing - I see that as pure banter between the different nations on these isles. You subjugated us all at some stage in history, so we give you a hard time at sporting events! That'll learn ye! :D

To see just how much banter it actually is, take a look at the crowds at the Olympics. Were they cheering for their individual nations? Yes. Were they cheering for Team GB? Yes. Were they cheering for Anyone But England? Most definitely no.
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Seimimac » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:05 pm

Sorry, meant to add:-

'The makers of Country life English Butter, had to change the advertising and marketing, to declare that it is 'British butter', because the Scots objected to English butter being sold in Scotland.'

Didn't something similar happen in the States, with some places changing the name of French Fries to Freedom Fries, in protest at the French refusing to support the USA in Iraq? Most of the time, nationalism is a tremendously good thing, other times, it's a silly name change to make a silly point...
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Toothy » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:41 pm

Can we keep this thread on topic, please? There are others more suited to debate of this kind. Thanks. :)
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Dotsie » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:49 pm

A thread on topic? Can we actually do that? :?
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby MongoGutman » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:17 pm

Back on topic -

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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Toothy » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:32 pm

Dotsie wrote:A thread on topic? Can we actually do that? :?


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Re: Faces to Names

Postby chris.ph » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:28 pm

ive got nothing against the english as long as they keep on playing crap rugby ;) if they do improve again then i will hate them :lol: :lol:
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Toothy » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:42 pm

*smacks wrist* tsk, tsk. ;)
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Conforumist » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:32 pm

I thought we had a thread with baby pictures of us? :?
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Toothy » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:57 pm

Really? Oh phooey! Never mind. I was planning to break you all in gently to how I look today by a gradual evolutionary approach. ;) The 21 year old Toothy pic might be a bit of a shocker. Just sayin'. (And no, I'm not 21 these days ;) )
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Dotsie » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:41 am

Do it! :D
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Tonyblack » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:57 am

I think the oldest picture I have of me is from this passport photo from back in the 90s.

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:? I used to think I looked so cool in those days. :lol:
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Adie » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:05 am

I'm on the far left.

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Re: Faces to Names

Postby Tonyblack » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:06 am

Nice picture! :D
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Re: Faces to Names

Postby michelanCello » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:56 am

Tony! :lol: :lol: love that picture!
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