This made me very sad today

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Postby Tonyblack » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:30 am

wicked woman wrote:not nice to think that we are no better than the citizens of Ankh-Morpork. Shows Terry's got it right though.
Sadly, I think it's a very human trait to be fascinated by death and destruction. It's the reason that newspapers do so well when they have a story about the tragic death of an abused child or the victims f a serial killer. It's also why people were glued to their TV sets watching the 9-11 coverage.

There's probably some primitive instinct involved that makes people into rubberneckers. :?
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Postby Lady Vetinari » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:37 am

I wish I could disagree saying I am not but my specialist subject for the real Mastermind would be the Concentration Camps of the Holocaust!
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Postby Dotsie » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:13 pm

I saw someone get knocked off his bike the other day when I was standing up on a bus. A woman who was sitting down almost climbed over the other passengers to get a better view :roll: I took her seat :twisted: The guy seemed fine by the way (when the bus drove past I saw him limping away), but understandably peed off.
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:29 pm

Some things should be mandatory viewing though - without film footage of protein-starved babies in Biafra and Ethiopia (the big bellies, stick limbs and red-tinged hair and eyes in children under the age of 6 are a consequence of the complete absence of protein in the diet. This is why very young infants are also effected as their mothers cannot feed them either) we perhaps would not have responded to their dire needs for intervention to end wars and give aid of various kinds.

Again, as Lady V has mentioned, the skeletal CC prisoners - in places like Serbia in the 90s as well as during WW2 in Germany and Poland, tell us that we must still fight against racial persecution and genocide.

The world is not a good place in general and the 'haves' must be reminded about what the 'have nots' have to suffer - Haiti's the latest place in a long line of tragic unstoppable events that underline the need for all of us to look after each other. :(
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Postby Tina a.k.a.SusanSto.Helit » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:40 pm

I know this is just my own personal hell, but, I have started to network on Facebook and classmates.com to try and help my husband's business get a little more off the ground.

Unfortunately, that means confronting a lot of old demons. I am bummed and have a horrible cold, and am reliving all the joys of my "childhood". I am fighting the urge to become obsessed with the desire to hunt some of the people down and do bad things. I wish I could have some closure, but these things are in My head. The people who perpetrated them have moved on. I am finding it impossible to leave them alone. I don't have anywhere to dump these feelings, and they have razors on them.

One point is sort of good. I have found the daughter of my pedophile. He is dead, of old age, never accused publicly. I thought she was dead. She, I am afraid, is a prostitute in Maryland now. I hope not. I want to send a letter to her, but am afraid of what will happen if she takes it wrong.

I know that it is futile to try and impossible to change the past, that way lies madness. I feel a bit mad now though. Things become hard to deal with and trying to keep a happy face on is very, very difficult.

thank you for letting me dump.
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Postby Tonyblack » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:47 pm

Dump away Tina. :)

I got rid of my Facebook account - there's too many people I have no wish at all to be in contact with. :wink:
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:27 am

(((Hugs Tina)))

I've never 'done' Facebook personally (have written stuff for Dreamworlds for the site's 'presence' but somebody else had to put it up for me as I find it totally confusing). The more I hear about it the more I'm repelled with people you've never heard of 'friending' you when you more than likely wouldn't ever go near them in 'real life' - far too few barriers and too much exposure which I know you can 'grade' but if you have to do that then why are you there in the 1st place.

It's a very simple thing to say ' I have to move on', but bloody difficult to do so, even if you want to do that very much indeed. I can see how you'd need to try for some closure with this disgusting man, but I'm glad you're questioning getting in touch with his daughter. If you're right about her then she most likely was as much a victim as you were, maybe more so. He's gone now and hopefully to a 'reward' that befits the nightmare he put you through and any others caught up in his obscenities.

Although it's still stuck in your head, you have already moved on somewhat. Had children and grandkids? Married people you loved for a time at least? And now you have a life where people cherish and think highly of you in real life and online :) You're ill yes, but you've also achieved a lot and shown that you're strong, intelligent and indomitable - a fighter not a loser even if your health, mental and physical can lay you low sometimes, your spirit is magnificent hon (((have some more hugs)))

Dump where and when you can Tina as much as you need, but I think you should try to resist contacting this lady in Maryland, stay well away from her. Her father ruined enough lives already and he's gone now. Leave her be and there'll no more additional ashes for you to rake over. Don't let her memory of him haunt you as well because you might end up sharing her nightmare as well. It's truly not worth a second more of your time or effort.

Revenge as in the movies is not a positive, nourishing thing - you already got your revenge by living a full and significant, rip-roaring life! :wink: Don't let him keep on abusing you in retrospect. Easy said I know, but I think you already know that you could keep on destroying yourself inside if you can't draw a line now. :(
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Postby Tina a.k.a.SusanSto.Helit » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:02 am

ty *accepts the hugs*
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Postby Tonyblack » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:45 am

Tina a.k.a.SusanSto.Helit wrote:ty *accepts the hugs*
Hey - I forgot to hug you! :o

*HUG*
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Postby Batty » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:27 am

(((Hugs)))

Tina, when my eldest sister was having a nervous breakdown, the counsellor advised her to write down everything using her other hand.
As she is right-handed it meant she had to write with her left hand.

The idea is that she expressed everything she felt as a child would - hence the child-like writing she would produce by using her other hand. Once she had expressed herself she could then destroy what she had written. Nobody would see what her feelings or thoughts were, so she was free to write anything and everything she chose.

I don't know if this will help you, but if you want to dump on this forum, then do so.

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Postby Dotsie » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:31 am

I'm with Jan on this one. Make sure you look after you first.

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Postby wicked woman » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:35 pm

Me too, Tina. Big hug from me.
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Postby bikkit » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:46 pm

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Postby poohcarrot » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:54 pm

I don't do "hugs" as I said before.
But I'll rub elbows with you if it makes you feel better. :P
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Postby Penfold » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:57 pm

BIG HUGS FROM ME TOO! (even from my manky bits)
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