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Postby cols » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:29 am

Well, I'm back from my trip to Vegas a couple of weeks now but unfortunately my little one ended up in hospital when I was away and I've only got her mobile now,

Anyway's Vegas is a surreal place , I have to admit I actually hated the location :( OH the hotel was gorgeous and the company was great but Vegas is not the place for me.
We drank way too much , spent WAY too much .... that's what holidays are for anyway!

The best thing about the break was bonding more with my 2 sisters. I was worried we'd kill one another but we got on great which was lovely. :D

I don't know if anyone here has been, but I found the veil of lights and entertainment was all too thin and beneath is a far seedier world . I don't know why but I could only see what was underneath, my sister who has been there 7 times seems totally unaware.
I'm glad to have had the oppurtunity to travel somewhere new but I won't ever go back!!
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Postby Tonyblack » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:55 am

I've only ever flown over it. Vegas is there for one reason - it's a haven for casinos and the like. You certainly aren't seeing America by visiting there any more than you'd be if you spent two weeks in Disneyland.

Sorry you didn't enjoy it and I hope that won't put you off visiting America again. The Southwest in particular has so much to offer. :)
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Postby Penfold » Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:14 pm

Hope your little one gets well soon Cols, sorry it had to happen while you were on holiday. :(

As a croupier, I am often asked if I would like to work in Vegas. My answer is always NO!. Besides the Green Card being almost impossible to attain, when I finish work I like to get away from gambling and casinos completely. Even in this country, I purposely live in a town over 10 miles away from where I work so I am the last person they call when they need to cover the shifts. (Actually, it works out cheaper for me as well despite paying for public transport and the occasional taxi :wink: )

cols wrote:Anyway's Vegas is a surreal place......
.......I don't know if anyone here has been, but I found the veil of lights and entertainment was all too thin and beneath is a far seedier world . I don't know why but I could only see what was underneath, my sister who has been there 7 times seems totally unaware.

I've always thought this from watching documentaries about Vegas history and lifestyles of Vegas residents. Also, I would like to add that gamblers are so absorbed with their game they are often totally oblivious to what goes on around them, Image maybe thats why you could see under the veneer when others around you couldn't. I remember taking off my shirt and walking around the pit topless (apart from waistcoat and bow tie) and none of the customers even noticed. :lol: :oops:
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Postby Dotsie » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:27 pm

Welcome back cols :D Sorry you had some problems :( hope your little one is OK now.

Mr D went once, & said I should visit one day, if only because I wouldn't really believe it unless. But he's never wanted to go back so we haven't been!
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Postby poohcarrot » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:35 pm

I spent 4 days in Vegas when I was hitching round the US. It's fun, but it isn't real. If you gamble it's going to cost you a lot of money. If you don't gamble then the hotels are cheap, and the hotel buffets are cheap and nice, and there was a water park called "Wet and Wild" which was brill.

When you gamble you can have as many free drinks as you want. I was playing blackjack and every 15 minutes I got the waitress to bring me a different cocktail. Naturally I went to bed broke, and threw up in the toilet too! :lol:
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Postby Jan Van Quirm » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:53 pm

I think in a past life I must have come a real cropper with gambling because I have a real phobia about it to the point where I feel really distressed and shaky if someone asks me to 'make up the numbers' even if it's just gin rummy and only pennies changes hands. Or perhaps I'm just lousy at cards... :lol:

But I have been to Vegas and like you Cols saw the all the negative stuff, the underlying desperation and obsession and greed and exploitation and contempt for existence in some ways (think about it - it's in the middle of a desert and there are stupendous fountains in most of the more prestigious hotel-casinos, 'cool-zones' in the streets where you can be 'misted' with refridgerated water and exotic greenery everywhere you look) and all the locals seem to be looking for an 'angle'.

On some levels I loved it - the architecture is stupendous and mind-boggling and at the time I was truly impressed with the Luxor in particular, both inside and outside and with the Stratosphere which was still being built, but had a 'dangling' rollercoaster already working over 1000 feet above streetlevel.

We stayed in the MGM Grand which at that time was biggest hotel in terms of occupancy - it took us 15 minutes to get from reception to our room (which was very spacious and quite sumptuous as well as being quite cheap) on the 3rd storey using the express lift because of course we had to walk through the casino to get there. First time it was deafening just with the slots and I felt dizzy even before we had our complementary welcome drink... When we left 2 days later we walked through the same huge casino to the carpark at about 6.30 am and people were still there on the slots from the night before and with the pall of smoke and this miasma of stale spilt alcohol and perfume - it really reeked. :shock: Over the entire area it was truly like something from an air-conditioned sanitised hell (do they still let you smoke in public places there now?) I couldn't wait to get out of there and back to LA, which is not my favourite place in the US. :roll:
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Postby swreader » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:05 am

When Tony told me about your experience Col (and his comment), I said it was a bit like going to Disneyland in France and thinking you'd seen Europe. Apparently in Las Vegas you can still smoke in Casinos although there are some that have "non-smoking" areas. They passed a law recently that restricts smoking where food is served--but not where the gambling is. By the way, Nevada is the only state with legalized houses of prostitution.

Hope your little one is OK now, and glad that the trip was worth it for the visit with family. But Vegas makes me both sick to the pit of my stomach and horribly angry--not just the seedier side which is bad enough, but the lavish use of electricity and water in the middle of a desert to create illusions of other countries, etc. makes no sense to me and is really not something that we should be doing now in the midst of a severe drought.

Come back to the US but try Tucson for a desert town that is nothing like Las Vegas, and has or is near all sorts of beautiful scenery. It's surrounded by mountains (the Catalinas top out at just under 9000 feet), and at roughly 1 million isn't quite so overwhelming as Phoenix (at least that's my feeling).
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Postby Tina a.k.a.SusanSto.Helit » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:11 am

Having an Ex who did the gambling addiction thing... I managed Not to wind up going to Vegas... I think it has to be simply too much of everything. I have gone to a couple or three casinos in the last 20 years and they were bad enough. I cannot imagine trying to have fun there.

DisneyWorld was too much for me and that was pretty much alcohol free. Just too much of everything and costs a FORTUNE.

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Postby Penfold » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:33 pm

Having been a croupier on and off (mostly on) for about 26 years now, I have all too often seen the more unpleasant side to this leisure business. Working at the Carousel Entertainment World (South Africa), a place where gambling was 24 hours, 6½ days a week (closed Sunday morning 0600 to 1100 for church attendance) it became normal to finish work at 5, 6, or even 7 in the morning to find children sleeping on the floor outside the entrance (even on a school day) whilst their parents were inside punting away the housekeeping. :evil: I've lost count of the number of people who have lost their families, homes or businesses through addiction in the past.

Having said that (on a more positive note), the government and Gaming Commission have, in recent years, put into practise a series of laws and restrictions to protect the customer and levied a heavy tax to provide funding for help agencies such as Gamcare. They also insist on all staff being trained to recognize and deal with problem gamblers (unlike in the past where the objective was to 'get the money and damn the rest'). This training is also heavily audited and tested by an independent agency.

On the whole, I enjoy my job which can be great fun in the right circumstances. It always gives me a great laugh when someone accidentally puts a £25 chip on a number instead of their 50p colour chip and it wins! :shock: :lol: I guess the whole thing about gambling, as with all aspects of life, is to partake light-heartedly, in moderation, and expect to lose in the end :wink:
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Postby Ponder Stibbons » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:32 pm

We were doing a short story in english last year about vegas and it said basically the same thing. I cant remember the name, but the story had something to do with one armed bandits
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Postby cols » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:13 am

Jan : You're spot on there, the arcitecture is amazing , the effort is enormous , but that desperation .. well it's almost tangible . I could sense it everywhere . Maybe because our dad is a gambler and me and my older sister could see it , I think my younger sister lives in a sheltered world and only sees the affluence of the place , or apperent affluence

SW : I would love to visit Tuscon some day as all of Tony's photos always look so lovely .I have been to the US before , I went to Wisconsin and I loved it,

Penfold: ohh I love dangermouse , oops back on topic.. I can't imagine how you deal with gamblers and their Zombie like demenor

Dotsie: Sadly mini me is not good at the moment , her arthritis is now attackin every joint in her body and her heart and lungs are also affected , and due to cuts in the health budget she won't get any relief till March, on the positive side , I had her pta meeting last week..' A ' student across the board. Am so proud
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Postby Dotsie » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:23 am

No relief til March?? That's crazy! :evil: Good school report though, well done her :wink:
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Postby cols » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:36 am

Thanks Dotsie. I was worried she'd be lagging behind having missed alot of school due to illness but she's holding her own.
We were even lucky to get the March appointment as apparently the Rhuematology department's funding and access to other departments was cut by 50% . :evil:
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Postby Tonyblack » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:42 am

cols wrote:Thanks Dotsie. I was worried she'd be lagging behind having missed alot of school due to illness but she's holding her own.
We were even lucky to get the March appointment as apparently the Rhuematology department's funding and access to other departments was cut by 50% . :evil:
That sucks! I hope it makes a difference when you do get the appointment.

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Postby wolfiess » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:26 am

I love it there. Its tacky cheesy and so fake I have been a few times with different friends and was in the drag king compition there one year sadly I only came 3rd. its not like anywhere else in the world I mean where else could you ride a gondola along a Venice canal climb a mini Eiffel tower then go watch the pirates fall off the ship while watching a murder happen in front of the cameras (CSI). But people like different things that’s what makes as unique just like everyone else :D . Im sorry you had a bad holiday and I hope the wee one is better soon.
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